Freggyragh Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, woody2 said: you do know the eu-usa deal would of opened the nhs to private usa companies....... Au contraire Monsieur Woody, I know the EU - US deal would not have caused any problems with the UK’s NHS model. I’m going to assume here that what you are trying to say is ‘TTIP rules on government procurement being pushed by the US would have opened the UK’s health services market to private US companies.’ In which case you are, as usual, talking out of your arse. The right of a state to choose to public procurement of health services is recognised by the E.U. and was being considered at every stage of negotiation. https://www.nhsconfed.org/-/media/Confederation/Files/public-access/European-Office/EU-Trade-Commissioners-letter-to-Unite-Secretary.pdf?la=en&hash=CC5ACA474D3E19FC6090A086F54F3B586583A228 The NHS is loathed by the brexit elites because it means they have to pay higher taxes so that we all have the same access to health and don’t have to pay half of the cost to billionaire owned insurance companies. That’s why you’ve been tricked into arguing for luxurious private care for them and a swift kick in the nads for yourself. Elite brexiters hating on the NHS: Dominic Frisby: https://www.respublica.org.uk/disraeli-room-post/2015/01/09/nothing-life-free-not-even-nhs/ Farage & Banks: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/all-the-times-ukip-has-called-for-nhs-privatisation-nigel-farage-paul-nuttall-2017-2 Hannan, Fox, Davis & Baker: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/18/rightwing-thinktanks-unveil-radical-plan-for-us-uk-brexit-trade-deal-nhs Grease-Mogg: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ournhs/tories-filibuster-to-stall-labours-nhs-bill/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 #fakenews ........................................................ yu lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 As the stop Brexit online petition reaches 3M signatures....in a couple of days.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 It's OK everyone Uri will sort it all out using the power of his MIND! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Freggyragh said: Au contraire Monsieur Woody, I know the EU - US deal would not have caused any problems with the UK’s NHS model. I’m going to assume here that what you are trying to say is ‘TTIP rules on government procurement being pushed by the US would have opened the UK’s health services market to private US companies.’ In which case you are, as usual, talking out of your arse. The right of a state to choose to public procurement of health services is recognised by the E.U. and was being considered at every stage of negotiation. https://www.nhsconfed.org/-/media/Confederation/Files/public-access/European-Office/EU-Trade-Commissioners-letter-to-Unite-Secretary.pdf?la=en&hash=CC5ACA474D3E19FC6090A086F54F3B586583A228 The NHS is loathed by the brexit elites because it means they have to pay higher taxes so that we all have the same access to health and don’t have to pay half of the cost to billionaire owned insurance companies. That’s why you’ve been tricked into arguing for luxurious private care for them and a swift kick in the nads for yourself. Elite brexiters hating on the NHS: Dominic Frisby: https://www.respublica.org.uk/disraeli-room-post/2015/01/09/nothing-life-free-not-even-nhs/ Farage & Banks: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/all-the-times-ukip-has-called-for-nhs-privatisation-nigel-farage-paul-nuttall-2017-2 Hannan, Fox, Davis & Baker: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/18/rightwing-thinktanks-unveil-radical-plan-for-us-uk-brexit-trade-deal-nhs Grease-Mogg: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/ournhs/tories-filibuster-to-stall-labours-nhs-bill/ wrong........uk had no get out......... 11 hours ago, TheTeapot said: #fakenews ........................................................ yu lost says the shed7 fan........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Non-Believer said: As the stop Brexit online petition reaches 3M signatures....in a couple of days.... people passing around pages of names and postcodes.........which e-mail service to use...........people saying they have signed it 100s of times......... pointless........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/12/how-eu-making-nhs-privatisation-permanent https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/22/ttip-deal-real-serious-risk-nhs-leading-qc Edited March 23, 2019 by woody2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 a sharp decline in demand for cars and other german-made goods has led to the steepest rate of decline in german manufacturing industry in more than six years. ze forum german won't be happy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 so those mp's that have objected against may's red lines (the lines she broke) want red lines on a ta..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, woody2 said: wrong........uk had no get out......... 6 minutes ago, woody2 said: https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/12/how-eu-making-nhs-privatisation-permanent https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/22/ttip-deal-real-serious-risk-nhs-leading-qc Well done Woody. Articles from The New Statesman and The Guardian. In Woodyworld aren’t they #fakenews rags? Read that Guardian one carefully, its about legal advice that prominent Leaver and champagne socialist Len McCluskey commissioned to try and show that the NHS would be privatised if TTIP was passed. My first link, posted again below was a point by point rebuff of Red Len’s UNITE legal advice. If there is something in it you think is wrong, let’s discuss it, but beware, there are many long words and no pictures. The EU is not only in a position to protect public health provision, it is required to. A weakened U.K. on its own would struggle to protect the NHS as it would not be able to dictate terms of trade with the US. Of course, the far right billionaire brexit elites of British politics can’t wait for the sell-off anyway. https://www.nhsconfed.org/-/media/Confederation/Files/public-access/European-Office/EU-Trade-Commissioners-letter-to-Unite-Secretary.pdf?la=en&hash=CC5ACA474D3E19FC6090A086F54F3B586583A228 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: Well done Woody. Articles from The New Statesman and The Guardian. In Woodyworld aren’t they #fakenews rags? Read that Guardian one carefully, its about legal advice that prominent Leaver and champagne socialist Len McCluskey commissioned to try and show that the NHS would be privatised if TTIP was passed. My first link, posted again below was a point by point rebuff of Red Len’s UNITE legal advice. If there is something in it you think is wrong, let’s discuss it, but beware, there are many long words and no pictures. The EU is not only in a position to protect public health provision, it is required to. A weakened U.K. on its own would struggle to protect the NHS as it would not be able to dictate terms of trade with the US. Of course, the far right billionaire brexit elites of British politics can’t wait for the sell-off anyway. https://www.nhsconfed.org/-/media/Confederation/Files/public-access/European-Office/EU-Trade-Commissioners-letter-to-Unite-Secretary.pdf?la=en&hash=CC5ACA474D3E19FC6090A086F54F3B586583A228 legal advice they hadn't even decided which court system to use.........which is why the eu failed at another ta....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 https://order-order.com/people/margaret-anne-georgiadou/ lock her up......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I'm not sure Uri Geller can stop Brexit but he may be handy in stopping knife crime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, woody2 said: https://order-order.com/people/margaret-anne-georgiadou/ lock her up......... http://www.oldguns.co.uk/ You can buy very good working antique guns and curios for which the ammunition is no longer made. A while back on the BBC Flog It a Pinkerton agency 5 shot .31 calibre revolver sold for £375...Obsolete calibre from the 1930s see...Quite legal to own...Some crooks are making the ammo and down on my manor a former REME artificer was making ammo for antiques in good order and which can now easily include WW1...A lot of obsolete calibres in rim fire and pinfire out there...Last I heard police were seeking a change in the law on working antiques and curios.....Of course making an antique fire and having ammo without a firearm certificate is a basic five years for starters...Click the link above to see what you can buy and get working.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Barrie Stevens said: http://www.oldguns.co.uk/ You can buy very good working antique guns and curios for which the ammunition is no longer made. A while back on the BBC Flog It a Pinkerton agency 5 shot .31 calibre revolver sold for £375...Obsolete calibre from the 1930s see...Quite legal to own...Some crooks are making the ammo and down on my manor a former REME artificer was making ammo for antiques in good order and which can now easily include WW1...A lot of obsolete calibres in rim fire and pinfire out there...Last I heard police were seeking a change in the law on working antiques and curios.....Of course making an antique fire and having ammo without a firearm certificate is a basic five years for starters...Click the link above to see what you can buy and get working.. she's done a runner before the police could speak to her........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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