Freggyragh Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I’m surprised anything in yellowhammer was a surprise. It’s been obvious for years that the brexiteers would lie, cheat and sell their own country to achieve brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, woolley said: Semantics. The UK is obliged to nod through EU law in areas where the EU has competence. EU law is supreme. Which of those laws don’t you like? Which area of competence do you object to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, woolley said: Semantics. The UK is obliged to nod through EU law in areas where the EU has competence. EU law is supreme. No they're not. Hence the EU Superstate that brexiteers use to scare little children will never happen. How are you getting on with these questions? On 8/15/2019 at 10:20 AM, P.K. said: @woolley You're a brexiteer. You don't have any arguments. An argument is two opposing points of view based on how the protagonists interpret the facts of the matter. You don't have any facts. All you have is smoke and mirrors. The UK has done well in the EU. You have absolutely no idea how it will fare outside of the EU and neither has anyone else. So stop banging on about "all of the arguments" because, if our politicians are anything to go by, all you have are falsehoods. To prove the point here are two related questions for you: #1 - what part of our "lost sovereignty" do you most want returned to our sovereign parliament? #2 - what would that be £worth? Never forget that if you can't put a £value on something then it's worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: Last week he had to have it explained that recommendations of the EU Council which the U.K. put forward as measures to meet OECD expectations were not forms of binding legislation by an EU Superstate. I’m afraid Woolley will not be persuaded by facts, not when he feels so strongly that there must by an EUSSR conspiracy working for something other than peace and prosperity. The problem, Freggy, is that you are very selective with facts, ignoring the ones that don't suit your point. You have explained nothing new to me. It doesn't matter how much you bang on about how fair the rules of the club are when the club in totality is toxic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 10:31 PM, Freggyragh said: On 1/25/2019 at 8:58 AM, woody2 said: your first on the list for "operation yellow snowflake hammer" it’s just misspelled incoherent gibberish 14 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: I’m surprised anything in yellowhammer was a surprise. It’s been obvious for years that the brexiteers would lie, cheat and sell their own country to achieve brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: Which of those laws don’t you like? Which area of competence do you object to? All of them. How many more times? It's the usual circular argument. I certainly object to tax policy set at an EU level. In all respects tax should be the responsibility of the nation state. I objected to VAT for the same reason. The more competency that is ceded in this way, the more like regional assemblies national parliaments become. Some federalists such as Ken Clarke are on record as applauding this. It is the direction of travel. Ever closer union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, P.K. said: No they're not. Hence the EU Superstate that brexiteers use to scare little children will never happen. Yes they are. They have to be passed. No ifs, no buts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 hours ago, P.K. said: On 8/15/2019 at 10:20 AM, P.K. said: The UK has done well in the EU. no it hasn't.........germany has........interesting that they are looking at wage cuts and a 3 day week as the uk leaves...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 hours ago, woolley said: Yes they are. They have to be passed. No ifs, no buts. Not if it means an EU Superstate they won't. Because sensible balanced reasonably well-informed folks like me unshackled by prejudice won't let them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Dear god... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 minute ago, quilp said: Dear god... Yes my son...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 hours ago, P.K. said: Not if it means an EU Superstate they won't. Because sensible balanced reasonably well-informed folks like me unshackled by prejudice won't let them.... Thank you, Jean-Claude Juncker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, woolley said: Thank you, Jean-Claude Juncker. No answer came the stern reply.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 "... Unshackled by prejudice..." How quaint... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 31 minutes ago, quilp said: "... Unshackled by prejudice..." How quaint... How twee. Better than your usual psychobabble I suppose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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