woolley Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Barrie Stevens said: So our newly reclaimed so called sovereignty will preclude performing classical music? https://www.liveabout.com/beethovens-ode-to-joy-lyrics-history-724410 Did he say that? Straw man, as our good friend Richard would say. Creative as ever, Bazza! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Barrie Stevens said: The report says no new checks and is dated July 19th 2019....Things are moving on hence the Irish Times report... irish times doesn't say anything new, the contingency plan hasn't changed and they don't need to discuss it with the uk....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Quote So they need some form of sustenance. If they are illegal it will come to light when they apply for work or try to claim benefits. Then they can be deported. I appreciate there would be a number involved in criminality or working in the black market economy, but that is a law enforcement issue. Hmmm I might agree if we had an ID # like Spain or an ID card like France but we haven't a clue who is here and who is not. That's great fodder for Haw-Haw because he came blame the EU's freedom of movement for workers which he's done for at least 5 years. Without doing that he wouldn't have made the case for the desired border lockdown for all those so frightened by immigration. Without that case, the "winners" wouldn't have got their result yet they seem remarkably ambivalent about this border now. I'd wager most brexiters would not be happy about catching 'them' at a later date as you seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 “a little bit of bread and no cheese” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: Hmmm I might agree if we had an ID # like Spain or an ID card like France but we haven't a clue who is here and who is not. We do have a tax and national insurance identity which serves just as well for this purpose. Then the local authorities need to get among the street dwellers and start asking questions. More than half of people living rough in London are foreigners. Why? What sort of life is that? What good are they doing by being there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Barrie Stevens said: So our newly reclaimed so called sovereignty will preclude performing classical music? https://www.liveabout.com/beethovens-ode-to-joy-lyrics-history-724410 no, the eu theme tune doesn't apply to the uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Beethoven is not a patch on chas n dave anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Ode to Joy, it certainly doesn't apply to this thread, very little f***ing joy in here! Totally unconnected to leaving the EU but why don't they use this as an opportunity to ditch the woeful God save the Queen/King anthem and change to Land of Hope and Glory, which is much more rousing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Quote We do have a tax and national insurance identity which serves just as well for this purpose 'Fraid not or else landlords would not be forced to act as unpaid Border Force personnel. I'm sure you aware that eg Spain's system means you have to quote your NIE # constantly to negotiate life. We perhaps should have something like that and the issues we supposedly have, and that won the vote, can be linked back to its absence. All that still hasn't answered the question of 'no hard border, no border control' if the stupidly alleged 77m can just walk in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, mojomonkey said: Ode to Joy, it certainly doesn't apply to this thread, very little f***ing joy in here! Totally unconnected to leaving the EU but why don't they use this as an opportunity to ditch the woeful God save the Queen/King anthem and change to Land of Hope and Glory, which is much more rousing. I'm sure SNP would approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: All that still hasn't answered the question of 'no hard border, no border control' if the stupidly alleged 77m can just walk in. Yes it has. Because they would be unable to work or claim benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 The National Anthem is boring - by Billy Connolly: https://youtu.be/i9nnnM-__JQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, woolley said: I'm sure SNP would approve. Yes, but does Jimmy Krankie and her cohorts ever actually approve of anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Ode to Joy, it certainly doesn't apply to this thread, very little f***ing joy in here! Totally unconnected to leaving the EU but why don't they use this as an opportunity to ditch the woeful God save the Queen/King anthem and change to Land of Hope and Glory, which is much more rousing. eh? the eu theme tune has nothing to do with the uk, neither is the blue flag or eu day....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Yes, but does Jimmy Krankie and her cohorts ever actually approve of anything? so about these broomsticks........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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