woody2 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 9 hours ago, ballaughbiker said: *Apart from the Irish one of course.... controlled by the cta...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) Quote controlled by the cta...... Nope CTA applies to UK (inc islands) and Irish residents only Edited August 22, 2019 by ballaughbiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Quote nothing racist about that Well you introduced race so count how many white faces are in his poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Quote no they can't......the uk has lost many cases over this........see the homeless cases... Some of whom were working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, manxman1980 said: Homelessness is a tricky one especially when it comes to non-Brits but it blame the EU for this is to ignore the issues of illegal immigration and modern slavery. Neither of these will be addressed by brexit. And if the UK Government continues with austerity measures and, god forbid, privatises the NHS whilst doing nothing about affordable housing then homelessness is only going to get worse. Again not a direct impact of Brexit but any recession post brexit would compound the matter. the uk hasn't had any austerity in 20 years...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: Nope CTA applies to UK (inc islands) and Irish residents only the uk gets the ireland passenger lists and can object to anyone entering the cta....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: Some of whom were working. still can't deport them...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Quote no they can't......the uk has lost many cases over this........see the homeless cases... You will know from last time you used this cherry picked info that homeless were targeted by May and workers were included. Google it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 7.4 million born in the eu living in the uk....... only 2.1 million in work...... each one in work would have to be earning £90k ish to cover the costs to the uk........ that doesn't include any costs for any children they have in the uk...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 1 minute ago, ballaughbiker said: You will know from last time you used this cherry picked info that homeless were targeted by May and workers were included. Google it. still can't deport them because of the eu...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Quote the uk gets the ireland passenger lists and can object to anyone entering the cta.... That clearly cannot work in practice. How can the UK stop the Irish Republic from allowing entry by EU citizens to Ireland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) Quote 7.4 million born in the eu living in the uk....... only 2.1 million in work...... each one in work would have to be earning £90k ish to cover the costs to the uk........ that doesn't include any costs for any children they have in the uk...... Link? (Given that we haven't a clue how many are really here). How many are pensioners? How many brought children etc? Figures above don't agree with this Edited August 22, 2019 by ballaughbiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Quote still can't deport them because of the eu...... They were targeted to meet quotas. That's why those particular ones won their case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: That clearly cannot work in practice. How can the UK stop the Irish Republic from allowing entry by EU citizens to Ireland? If Ireland wishes to keep the benefits of the CTA it cannot join Schengen. So long as it is in the CTA Irish ports can be controlled in the same way as UK ports. Ireland has incentive to cooperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Just like the UK atm EU citizens pass freely into the Republic despite neither being in Schengen. The only effective difference is the need to carry an ID card or passport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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