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11 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said:

Just like the UK atm EU citizens pass freely into the Republic despite neither being in Schengen. The only effective difference is the need to carry an ID card or passport.

 

and? the control of the cta is done by passenger lists......

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37 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said:

Link? (Given that we haven't a clue how many are really here). How many are pensioners? How many brought children etc?

 

Figures above don't agree with 

this

 

ons.....

the figures on your link doesn't look much different......

7.4 million born in the eu living in the uk....... your link 7.5 million.....

2.1 million in work......  your link 2.4 million......

we all know its guesswork but its all we have for now.......

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44 minutes ago, woody2 said:

ons.....

the figures on your link doesn't look much different......

7.4 million born in the eu living in the uk....... your link 7.5 million.....

2.1 million in work......  your link 2.4 million......

we all know its guesswork but its all we have for now.......

And did you see 8.5% UK work force born in EU? Then there are EU students and those born in the EU living on a pension maybe from a lifetime's UK work or on a pension from an EU state.

You used the figures to give the idea that 5.3m are living off us. They aren't.

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@ quilp

CTA for Irish and British Citizens only

No border means determining that status is far from easy so if no backstop and we have no deal this border will be porous to non British/Irish. That is not a problem for me, but what about the leave voters? Looks like you need a border of which to 'take back control'.  Johnson says otherwise.

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How to blame other people for your Brexit bullsh*t

It’s all Remainers’ fault

Remainers have completely failed to: devise a foolproof Brexit plan; negotiate new trade deals; support something they don’t agree with which would have made no difference anyway. If the blame for Brexit going wrong lies anywhere, it’s with these total b*stards.

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/how-to-blame-other-people-for-your-brexit-bullsht-20190821188380

Could have been written by the Woolster....

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It's not easy to get up to date figures but in 2015 , 114,000 EU citizens were claiming jsa/dla/housing benefit. About 2%. No matter what, and dismissing the homeless who were unfairly targeted when May was HS , most (eg not disabled etc)  non-workers could be repatriated if they exceed 3 months. We have chosen, not to do that (thankfully).

Try exceeding 3 months in Spain with no money or trying to claim benefits or use health services. They are an EU member state. The only difference is their government's choice. The 'jackboot' doesn't force them to do otherwise as you like to portray. Regularly. 

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5 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said:

Surely you haven't fallen for the woodyfact that we are supporting 5 ish million EU citizens?

It's not easy to get up to date figures but in 2015 , 114,000 EU citizens were claiming jsa. About 2%.

your link says

7.5 million born in the eu living in the uk.......

 2.4 million in work...........

that's 1 in 3 working......

you are missing what the gov. spends per head on public services........

it's between £12k and £15k depending on which data you use......

taking even the lower figure everyone of those 2.4m in work they would all have to be paying £36k in tax just to break even.....

how many of your 2.4m get even close?

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8 minutes ago, Freggyragh said:

Hmmm, who to believe? Researchers from the University of Oxford, or the fevered ravings of a brexit supporting poster who can’t form complete sentences? 

its clearly above your intelligence......

they split the number between eu migrants and eu citizens then choose which one to use that gives it a pro-eu stance......

i wonder how much eu funding they get......

the number born in the eu is 7.5m (7.4m ons) numbers in work 2.4m (2.1m ons)

it's a massive cost to the uk which will never be repaid.......

 

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4 minutes ago, woody2 said:

your link says

7.5 million born in the eu living in the uk.......

 2.4 million in work...........

that's 1 in 3 working......

you are missing what the gov. spends per head on public services........

it's between £12k and £15k depending on which data you use......

taking even the lower figure everyone of those 2.4m in work they would all have to be paying £36k in tax just to break even.....

how many of your 2.4m get even close?

Ah, I see the problem. The first line in the link says the number of EU born in the U.K. is 3.7M, not 7.5M. That’s where you’re going wrong. 7.5 is a much bigger number than 3.7, more than double actually. No wonder you’ve been getting all upset about immigration! You should have have asked someone who can count to explain it to you, and you wouldn’t have got yourself all worked up, or made a tit of yourself, again. 

You see, if you had 7.5M EU immigrants and only 2.4M in work, then you’d have 5.1M out of work, and as the majority of EU ex-pats in the U.K. are of working age you’d have at least 2.5M EU unemployed, but as the U.K. as a whole only has 1.5M unemployed you’ll see that this is impossible. 

Now, if you have only 3.7M EU immigrants and 2.4M are in work, and 1.3M are too young, too old, or too rich to need unemployment benefit, then the number of EU born unemployed will be negligible - as is the case. 

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/eu-migration-to-and-from-the-uk/

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2 minutes ago, Freggyragh said:

Ah, I see the problem. The first line in the link says the number of EU born in the U.K. is 3.7M, not 7.5M. That’s where you’re going wrong. 7.5 is a much bigger number than 3.7, more than double actually. No wonder you’ve been getting all upset about immigration! You should have have asked someone who can count to explain it to you, and you wouldn’t have got yourself all worked up, or made a tit of yourself, again. 

You see, if you had 7.5M EU immigrants and only 2.4M in work, then you’d have 5.1M out of work, and as the majority of EU ex-pats in the U.K. are of working age you’d have at least 2.5M EU unemployed, but as the U.K. as a whole only has 1.5M unemployed you’ll see that this is impossible. 

Now, if you have only 3.7M EU immigrants and 2.4M are in work, and 1.3M are too young, too old, or too rich to need unemployment benefit, then the number of EU born unemployed will be negligible - as is the case. 

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/eu-migration-to-and-from-the-uk/

it doesn't say that on bikers link......

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The number of EU-born migrants living in the UK stood at 3.7 million in 2017

There were 3.8 million EU citizens living in the UK in 2017, including children born here

ons says....

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Around 3.7 million people living in the UK in 2018 were citizens of another EU country. That’s about 6% of the UK population

Similarly, 6% of the UK population were born in another EU country.

= 7.4m or 7.5m depending on data.....

the eu say 4.5m EU-born migrants Vs 3 million EU citizens...... which equals 7.5m

its still around the same figure and the cost to the uk doesn't change......

still very few paying the tax needed to cover the costs of having them here.......

so your wrong again......

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