woody2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Look forward to your response to the next stage then, forget Yellowhammer, next up is Black Swan. Its like something from a really shit novel. Labour MP Stephen Timms: "This is their worst case planning assumption... The worst case scenario every time I get on a plane is that it crashes and I die. Amazingly it hasn't happened yet." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Look forward to your response to the next stage then, forget Yellowhammer, next up is Black Swan. Its like something from a really shit novel. good news........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, woolley said: Of course they are not to be trusted. They are politicians for goodness sake. But this parliament is pushing the boundaries of convention and sound practice in seeking to get internal government correspondence published in its rabid pursuit of overturning a democratic decision that it doesn't like. Yellowhammer was published in the Sunday Times last month. Typical biased reporting of it such as 60% of goods held up at the Channel without adding that this was applicable to Day 1. Opposition there to scrutinise? Corbyn's crew? You are having a laugh now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, woody2 said: just as expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith: Operation Yellowhammer is 'like asking yourself 'Oh my God! I've got to cross the road. What if I didn't look right? What if somebody didn't stop?' This is what they're dealing with." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 No-deal Brexit legal challenge dismissed by Belfast judge https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49676133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lurker Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, woody2 said: this is only the overview.......one minute the remoans claim this document is updated.....when it is updated they also complain..... it's just project fear by remoans for remoans........ So what changed in the intervening time between Yellowhammer being a base case and changing to being a worst case? What plans and preparation have been put in place in the month or so to alleviate concerns about the impact of a no deal brexit? I haven’t seen or heard anything to suggest that the situation has improved. Either something changed (in which case what is it?) or the documents have been doctored to make it less embarrassing for brexiteer ministers to continue to support a no deal despite the evidence of their own departments’ forecasts. Edited September 12, 2019 by The Lurker more bloody typo's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, woody2 said: Former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/iain-duncan-smith-caught-commons-19428464.amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/iain-duncan-smith-caught-commons-19428464.amp I think the pertinent word in there is 'appearing'. This sort of unedifying non-journalism is why you should never read tabloids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, The Lurker said: So what changed in the intervening time between Yellowhammer being a base case and changing to being a worst case? What plans and preparation have been put in place in the month or so to alleviate concerns about the impact of a no deal brexit? I haven’t seen or heard anything to suggest that the situation has improved. Either something changed (in which case what is it?) or the documents have been doctored to make it less embarrassing for brexiteer ministers to continue to support a no deal despite the evidence of their own departments’ forecasts. since jan? a new pm spending £££££££££ to sort any problems out........read the bma letter re health planning.......france having no new checks for 9 months etc..... it project hysteria written by remoans........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 57 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/iain-duncan-smith-caught-commons-19428464.amp the mirror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lurker Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, woody2 said: since jan? a new pm spending £££££££££ to sort any problems out........read the bma letter re health planning.......france having no new checks for 9 months etc..... it project hysteria written by remoans........ Pretty sure the ‘base case’ yellowhammer docs were leaked in mid-August. Happy to be corrected with evidence to the contrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Lurker said: Pretty sure the ‘base case’ yellowhammer docs were leaked in mid-August. Happy to be corrected with evidence to the contrary. january i posted about them..........full copy was leaked then and was online if you know where to look ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lurker Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, woody2 said: january i posted about them..........full copy was leaked then and was online if you know where to look ...... I’m not questioning the January leak but stating that I believe the mid-August leak (there has been more than one) stated it was base case and now it’s become worst case. So to clarify my question; what has happened since the mid-August leak that has changed Yellowhammer from base case to worst case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, The Lurker said: I’m not questioning the January leak but stating that I believe the mid-August leak (there has been more than one) stated it was base case and now it’s become worst case. So to clarify my question; what has happened since the mid-August leak that has changed Yellowhammer from base case to worst case? i have just said........ the question is how philip hammond knew it had been updated when he was no longer in government....... the main authors behind this report also did project fear........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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