rmanx Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Wouldn't be at all surprised , don't forget "protection" and intimidation Those are mainly used to reinforce and protect the other revenue streams I mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 gangland murders have never gone away, i hear the irish want a direct boat service to the eu bypassing britain, time to pull up the drawbridge and let them get on with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 gangland murders have never gone away, i hear the irish want a direct boat service to the eu bypassing britain, time to pull up the drawbridge and let them get on with it...It's never time to pull up the drawbridge. Regardless of nation state, the British Islands are linked inextricably by language and history. The large numbers of people of Irish descent living in Britain, having contributed greatly to our nation, demonstrate the links. Sheer demand for travel will ensure that transport links between the UK and Ireland continue, the market will see to that. There are already ferry links between Ireland and the EU that bye-pass Britain, by the way, Cork to Roscoff (Brittany Ferries) and Rosslare to Cherbourg (Irish Ferries). In the light of Britain leaving the EU I can fully understand any holder of an Irish passport not wanting to pass through extra and possibly tedious passport controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 they are welcome to take back the pikeys that have added nothing to britain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Albert Tatlock Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 You obviously didn't listen to the Fun Boy Three lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 You obviously didn't listen to the Fun Boy Three lyrics. I've a lot of time for Terry Hall. But I would guess that he would probably agree that the 'message' of his juvenile lyrics rather pales vs the significance (metaphorical or literal, take your pick) of Bach's Matthew Passion in this context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The IRA (in its various forms) stopped being about an independent Ireland and religious sectarianism a long time ago. its purely an organised criminal movement now interested in making money from drugs, sex trafficking and arms trafficking. So pretty much like all the intelligence agencies who infiltrated them then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 The IRA (in its various forms) stopped being about an independent Ireland and religious sectarianism a long time ago. its purely an organised criminal movement now interested in making money from drugs, sex trafficking and arms trafficking. So pretty much like all the intelligence agencies who infiltrated them then. yes, because criminals need help to be criminals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The IRA (in its various forms) stopped being about an independent Ireland and religious sectarianism a long time ago. its purely an organised criminal movement now interested in making money from drugs, sex trafficking and arms trafficking. So pretty much like all the intelligence agencies who infiltrated them then. yes, because criminals need help to be criminals... ...and the biggest criminals wear suits and drink scotch in gentleman's clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 ...and the biggest criminals wear suits and drink scotch in gentleman's clubs. An no one in the IRA fits that description without the aid of government... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 You obviously didn't listen to the Fun Boy Three lyrics.I've a lot of time for Terry Hall. But I would guess that he would probably agree that the 'message' of his juvenile lyrics rather pales vs the significance (metaphorical or literal, take your pick) of Bach's Matthew Passion in this context.Wrong guess. In this case it does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Wrong guess. In this case it does not. Don't be silly. That FBT track trivialised an important issue. And it was very weak - like bad school poetry. And it hasn't aged well at all. Compared with, say, Ghost Town, which was more subtly political and observational - and they were writing about something they knew. There was relatively little pop music which worked politically. The best examples addressed issues in a much more subtle manner. Thinking of, say, Marvin Gaye. The Bach piece, by contrast, intelligently addresses themes around suffering and persecution in a manner which is both beautiful and profound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Sheer demand for travel will ensure that transport links between the UK and Ireland continue, the market will see to that. There are already ferry links between Ireland and the EU that bye-pass Britain, by the way, Cork to Roscoff (Brittany Ferries) and Rosslare to Cherbourg (Irish Ferries). In the light of Britain leaving the EU I can fully understand any holder of an Irish passport not wanting to pass through extra and possibly tedious passport controls. For sheer convenience anyway, why would you touch Great Britain if you were travelling from Ireland to France? As you say there are direct ferry links and have been since before Britain and Ireland joined the EEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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