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16 hours ago, SleepyJoe said:

A lounge was requested for people off to Liverpool for medical stuff but I think it may have been denied as most travel by air

Well I suppose for £80 million a lounge and cafe would have been a bit too much to ask for 😂

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IOMG are excelling themselves with their dickwaving. Press release published on Facebook, of the start of works for the new linkspan. Accompanying the pictures are a top trumps statistics of the depth, width etc of the linkspan and the excavations etc. Why oh Why? I and others couldn’t give a shit, just build it and let’s use the facility. No doubt the next pictures will be CM Cannan and Minister of DOI Chris Thomas holding the CMs hand inspecting the linkspan. 

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18 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

No way a  cafe could make money

The words IOMG and making money ………….. that’s a good one. 
 

VAT scams, wheezes, fiddles (legal ones of course) and dodges are what we are good at. 

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you are wrong , a cafe or mega Chinese would make money with that fabulous  waterfront outlook , what do you think is going to happen to it between and of October and April , when  there are practically no sailings  and you cant use it for freight anyway   Steam packet  or isle of man government should be  looking for someone to partner with now, don't forget there will only be passengers waiting for the ferry  for a couple of hours before the sailing  and the ones with cars and vans usually stay with the vehicle  ,and on arrival  from Douglas  foot passengers  only passing through  in a few minutes , so there should be lots of commercial opportunities  to generate some rent to help with the massive loan charges , 

just requires someone in government  to get off their backside are realise the rest of the world does not owe them a living 

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1 hour ago, Omobono said:

you are wrong , a cafe or mega Chinese would make money with that fabulous  waterfront outlook , what do you think is going to happen to it between and of October and April , when  there are practically no sailings  and you cant use it for freight anyway   Steam packet  or isle of man government should be  looking for someone to partner with now, don't forget there will only be passengers waiting for the ferry  for a couple of hours before the sailing  and the ones with cars and vans usually stay with the vehicle  ,and on arrival  from Douglas  foot passengers  only passing through  in a few minutes , so there should be lots of commercial opportunities  to generate some rent to help with the massive loan charges , 

just requires someone in government  to get off their backside are realise the rest of the world does not owe them a living 

Yes with some imagination in could be a destination venue in its own right. Maybe art, crafts exhibitions etc. Should be a pretty good space for all that money.

Worth a shot I would imagine unless our Scouse mates have put convenants or restrictions on the sort of thing ,and the times,it can be used for.

I know people who go to Costa  in the Sea Terminal who are not setting foot on the boat.

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To add “and the times”
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2 hours ago, Omobono said:

you are wrong , a cafe or mega Chinese would make money with that fabulous  waterfront outlook , what do you think is going to happen to it between and of October and April , when  there are practically no sailings  and you cant use it for freight anyway   Steam packet  or isle of man government should be  looking for someone to partner with now, don't forget there will only be passengers waiting for the ferry  for a couple of hours before the sailing  and the ones with cars and vans usually stay with the vehicle  ,and on arrival  from Douglas  foot passengers  only passing through  in a few minutes , so there should be lots of commercial opportunities  to generate some rent to help with the massive loan charges , 

just requires someone in government  to get off their backside are realise the rest of the world does not owe them a living 

You're not from here are you?

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59 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

You're not from here are you?

Cheap laughs. This supposedly clever retort has surely run its course by now

There are many in government who stood to make things better and in the interests of the populace, and far from sitting on their backsides are working bloody hard to make it so. Fortunately they know that such twatty remarks are part of the territory and although they may jar they can brush them aside.

They don’t always, and never will always get it right.

To use another overused response. If you think you can do better have a go yourself

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9 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Cheap laughs. This supposedly clever retort has surely run its course by now

There are many in government who stood to make things better and in the interests of the populace, and far from sitting on their backsides are working bloody hard to make it so. Fortunately they know that such twatty remarks are part of the territory and although they may jar they can brush them aside.

They don’t always, and never will always get it right.

To use another overused response. If you think you can do better have a go yourself

Assuming you're taking about Tynwald Members here because you used the word "stood". One Tynwald member can not make things better they don't have the power or the influence. Which is why we never have any change; and they get conned into things like this landing stage. It was and is a huge waste of taxpayers cash. The trouble is when they make mistakes like this it takes funds away from others areas that truly need it. They need to spend more time considering things; meeting constituents; business owners; the unions; and not flouncing round Departments or at secret briefings where their critical thinking goes out the window and they are magically turned into mute bobbleheads when the debates happen.

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4 hours ago, Omobono said:

you are wrong , a cafe or mega Chinese would make money with that fabulous  waterfront outlook , what do you think is going to happen to it between and of October and April , when  there are practically no sailings  and you cant use it for freight anyway   Steam packet  or isle of man government should be  looking for someone to partner with now, don't forget there will only be passengers waiting for the ferry  for a couple of hours before the sailing  and the ones with cars and vans usually stay with the vehicle  ,and on arrival  from Douglas  foot passengers  only passing through  in a few minutes , so there should be lots of commercial opportunities  to generate some rent to help with the massive loan charges , 

just requires someone in government  to get off their backside are realise the rest of the world does not owe them a living 

You are dreaming. It moles from anywhere. Only has customers a few  few hours a week and any customer is one less on the boat. I bet you don't work in business. Vending machines. Just right. 

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9 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

Assuming you're taking about Tynwald Members here because you used the word "stood". One Tynwald member can not make things better they don't have the power or the influence. Which is why we never have any change; and they get conned into things like this landing stage. It was and is a huge waste of taxpayers cash. The trouble is when they make mistakes like this it takes funds away from others areas that truly need it. They need to spend more time considering things; meeting constituents; business owners; the unions; and not flouncing round Departments or at secret briefings where their critical thinking goes out the window and they are magically turned into mute bobbleheads when the debates happen.

Yes I’m talking about MHK’s who have stood for election. When you are saying that one MHK can’t make things better is it because you believe it is because of the lack of party politics here? There are other mechanisms.

Re the landing stage. Yes it does at this time look like a great cock up. But so did the Millenium  Dome  when it was created but look at it now. Who knows?
 

I think your charge of not considering more  other things, meeting constituents, business owners, the unions etc is grossly unfair. MHK’s hold constituency meetings, they do meet with such parties as business owners and trade union leaders.

. And they also are agreeable to going on the Mannin Line etc to listen to and debate peoples concern. 
The recent North West plan for the Island with printed leaflets, physical meetings,  and Webinars etc is another example of how they engage with the public.
 

So it’s not all flouncing around and secret meetings.

 

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2 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

You are dreaming. It moles from anywhere. Only has customers a few  few hours a week and any customer is one less on the boat. I bet you don't work in business. Vending machines. Just right. 

It would be handy to have that in English. 

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3 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

You are dreaming. It moles from anywhere. Only has customers a few  few hours a week and any customer is one less on the boat. I bet you don't work in business. Vending machines. Just right. 

Any customer is one less on the boat? Are you suggesting that anyone popping in for an Espresso in Costa in the Sea Terminal should be press ganged into becoming a passenger on the next IOMSPCO sailing?

I spent my working life in business.

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