Mistercee Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 11 hours ago, Non-Believer said: Your para 1. The fact that PH advised IoMG of potential difficulties with the site prior to purchase and anything being signed. That information from an MHK. If that is true then Government are even bigger fools than even I though possible. I presume it will be the civil servants who yet again decided that they "know better". To get to the bottom of this entire fiasco some of our MHK's need to start talking to site acquisition and construction professionals to understand what should have been done and where it all went wrong. Then they stand a chance of cutting through the bullshit they have been fed so far and can ask some sensible questions which may enable them and us to understand what has gone wrong and how we have spent £70m+ for a shed and a linkspan. Knowsley Metropolitan Borough Council built Shakespeare North for £38m - recently completed and apparently within budget!! Perhaps your MHK should put his head above the parapet and tell his colleagues the information he has!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Mistercee said: Perhaps your MHK should put his head above the parapet and tell his colleagues the information he has!!! In the casually candid fashion that he advised me (pre-election), it certainly didn't sound like it was any sort of secret, more like common knowledge. PAC are now tasked with investigating matters, let's hope that it's no holds barred and some people are held to account if necessary. Of course that's if they haven't already floated off into the sunset. Another hand-wringing and lessons will be learned statement on the way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ship Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: In the casually candid fashion that he advised me (pre-election), it certainly didn't sound like it was any sort of secret, more like common knowledge. PAC are now tasked with investigating matters, let's hope that it's no holds barred and some people are held to account if necessary. Of course that's if they haven't already floated off into the sunset. Another hand-wringing and lessons will be learned statement on the way. Yes. You made the same point in a post on this thread on 21 December last year. You also suggested that that might have been the reason that Peel Holdings withdrew their original offer to build the dock at no cost to the Manx taxpayer and the reason that costs have rocketed thereafter. It would be nice if somebody looked into it... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghost Ship said: Yes. You made the same point in a post on this thread on 21 December last year. You also suggested that that might have been the reason that Peel Holdings withdrew their original offer to build the dock at no cost to the Manx taxpayer and the reason that costs have rocketed thereafter. It would be nice if somebody looked into it... Thursday last @asitis advised that an MLC has said we've been sold a pup. These people know full well what has happened, they're just not broadcasting it yet and are probably waiting for the PAC to formalise it. SPCo are claiming that they were never consulted, Lars Ugland has already had a pop about that. When the report is complete the dodging will start and the promises that it could never happen again. But people will have already departed so nothing will be done in that respect. Much earlier in the thread there are also pics of huge cracks in the existing dock/River walls; what happens when they need to be addressed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: Thursday last @asitis advised that an MLC has said we've been sold a pup. These people know full well what has happened, they're just not broadcasting it yet and are probably waiting for the PAC to formalise it. SPCo are claiming that they were never consulted, Lars Ugland has already had a pop about that. When the report is complete the dodging will start and the promises that it could never happen again. But people will have already departed so nothing will be done in that respect. Much earlier in the thread there are also pics of huge cracks in the existing dock/River walls; what happens when they need to be addressed? Another 100 million? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 If I win the euro on Tuesday I would not be adverse to hiring a forensic accountant firm, if you think Government would let them loose on the paper work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 46 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: If I win the euro on Tuesday I would not be adverse to hiring a forensic accountant firm, if you think Government would let them loose on the paper work The only thing getting let loose on this paperwork is probably a shredder ! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 All crabbing apart and I've done my share, it is a project that along with the Prom requires further scrutiny? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kopek said: All crabbing apart and I've done my share, it is a project that along with the Prom requires further scrutiny? Quite, somebody's definitely had their fingers in the till! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 They probably haven't tho Finlo, more fool them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Dirty Buggane said: If I win the euro on Tuesday I would not be adverse to hiring a forensic accountant firm, if you think Government would let them loose on the paper work And what difference would that make? Never mind being averse, It would better use of your winnings ( or a proportion thereof) to give it to a worthy charitable cause. Say WaterAid, which I have just plucked out of the air, having watched too much afternoon television Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kopek said: They probably haven't tho Finlo, more fool them? 70+million doesn't just vanish into thin air! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 minute ago, finlo said: 70+million doesn't just vanish into thin air! Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Correct Exactly, someone must have asked for x amount for this and x amount for that so somebody must have a clear picture of events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Just now, finlo said: Exactly, someone must have asked for x amount for this and x amount for that so somebody must have a clear picture of events. Well yes an audit trail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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