Kopek Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Is it the 'Day Trip' value of Liverpool that appeals? These day trips are a Manx tradition but are the shopping/football trips a single day any more??? Must be a bit of a rush? Why subject oneself to the hassle for some Primark bargains??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kopek said: Is it the 'Day Trip' value of Liverpool that appeals? These day trips are a Manx tradition but are the shopping/football trips a single day any more??? Must be a bit of a rush? Why subject oneself to the hassle for some Primark bargains??? It's a Chav thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Kopek said: Is it the 'Day Trip' value of Liverpool that appeals? These day trips are a Manx tradition but are the shopping/football trips a single day any more??? Must be a bit of a rush? Why subject oneself to the hassle for some Primark bargains??? That’s one factor, the other is transport links and in all probability being nearer where your end destination is as opposed to landing in the godforsaken hole that is Heysham. Re day trips in my younger days I was a big fan. Get the SeaCat, arrive in Liverpool at ten (ish), go to BHS have their seven item breakfast for a ridiculously low price ( well compared with Island prices). Have a look round the shops or go for a pint or two. Go and see the football whilst the womenfolk went proper shopping. Leave the football, get back into the city. If time have another drink before boarding the boat back. Have a bit of banter, a read, another drink or whatever and arrive back in Douglas knowing you had had a great day out.. I’m a bit too old for all of that now. But wouldn’t like to deprive the next generation of those experiences. We should not, and cannot lose the Liverpool link. It is vital to the Island’s collective wellbeing. Call me a chav if you will Edited July 27, 2022 by The Voice of Reason Last sentence added due to Finlo’s condescending post above 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: That’s one factor, the other is transport links and in all probability being nearer where your end destination is as opposed to landing in the godforsaken hole that is Heysham. Re day trips in my younger days I was a big fan. Get the SeaCat, arrive in Liverpool at ten (ish), go to BHS have their seven item breakfast for a ridiculously low price ( well compared with Island prices). Have a look round the shops or go for a pint or two. Go and see the football whilst the womenfolk went proper shopping. Leave the football, get back into the city. If time have another drink before boarding the boat back. Have a bit of banter, a read, another drink or whatever and arrive back in Douglas knowing you had had a great day out.. I’m a bit too old for all of that now. But wouldn’t like to deprive the next generation of those experiences. We should not, and cannot lose the Liverpool link. It is vital to the Island’s collective wellbeing. Call me a chav if you will And you believe expenditure of what seems to be likely to exceed £100m is justified by that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Max Power said: I think that when the site was found to be difficult, those responsible decided to push on as we had already bought it. The information was withheld, and the fact that we should have walked away early on in the game. They were told the site was difficult at the purchase negotiations stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I suppose that is something that could come out of a 'review'??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 They should have taken the offer from Peel Ports to build a replacement landing stage at no cost to the Island. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Would it have remained so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: That’s one factor, the other is transport links and in all probability being nearer where your end destination is as opposed to landing in the godforsaken hole that is Heysham. Re day trips in my younger days I was a big fan. Get the SeaCat, arrive in Liverpool at ten (ish), go to BHS have their seven item breakfast for a ridiculously low price ( well compared with Island prices). Have a look round the shops or go for a pint or two. Go and see the football whilst the womenfolk went proper shopping. Leave the football, get back into the city. If time have another drink before boarding the boat back. Have a bit of banter, a read, another drink or whatever and arrive back in Douglas knowing you had had a great day out.. I’m a bit too old for all of that now. But wouldn’t like to deprive the next generation of those experiences. We should not, and cannot lose the Liverpool link. It is vital to the Island’s collective wellbeing. Call me a chav if you will It's often not possible to reach the ferry back on Saturday in time. Sunday's definitely not possible with 430 matches. Steam Packet so t reschedule the sailings to 8pm to allow people sufficient time to get to the terminal so nowadays people either come back overnight from Heysham or get a flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 8 hours ago, Gladys said: And you believe expenditure of what seems to be likely to exceed £100m is justified by that? I wasn’t making any comment on that. But since you mention it , without knowing all the costings it does appear we are being ripped off. But that doesn’t alter the fact sailings to Liverpool are vital. If we were to lose them the Island would be poorer for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I wasn’t making any comment on that. But since you mention it , without knowing all the costings it does appear we are being ripped off. But that doesn’t alter the fact sailings to Liverpool are vital. If we were to lose them the Island would be poorer for it. Oh,we are all poorer for it............... Edited July 28, 2022 by Hoops 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 32 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I wasn’t making any comment on that. But since you mention it , without knowing all the costings it does appear we are being ripped off. But that doesn’t alter the fact sailings to Liverpool are vital. If we were to lose them the Island would be poorer for it. If, as you say, a Liverpool link is 'vital, then that implies an 'at any cost' solution, which seems to be what we are getting. I would dispute your use of 'vital' in the context of day trips or even a permanent link to Liverpool. Health services, education, emergency services, are all 'vital'. What you describe is something that enhances life, not that is necessary to it. Your vital requirement has diverted eye watering amounts from the things which are truly vital to our life and it is that fixed and narrow view which got us in this situation. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: That’s one factor, the other is transport links and in all probability being nearer where your end destination is as opposed to landing in the godforsaken hole that is Heysham. Re day trips in my younger days I was a big fan. Get the SeaCat, arrive in Liverpool at ten (ish), go to BHS have their seven item breakfast for a ridiculously low price ( well compared with Island prices). Have a look round the shops or go for a pint or two. Go and see the football whilst the womenfolk went proper shopping. Leave the football, get back into the city. If time have another drink before boarding the boat back. Have a bit of banter, a read, another drink or whatever and arrive back in Douglas knowing you had had a great day out.. I’m a bit too old for all of that now. But wouldn’t like to deprive the next generation of those experiences. We should not, and cannot lose the Liverpool link. It is vital to the Island’s collective wellbeing. Call me a chav if you will Well worth the £100 million plus - don't know why we're complaining... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Hoops said: Oh,we are all poorer for it............... And likely to be so for a long time unless we can get 500,000 visitors a year plus 15,000 new residents all passing through it to contribute to paying off its costs. Alternatively; coming soon to a Tax Assessment or Rates Demand near you :- "Terminal Tax". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: I wasn’t making any comment on that. But since you mention it , without knowing all the costings it does appear we are being ripped off. But that doesn’t alter the fact sailings to Liverpool are vital. If we were to lose them the Island would be poorer for it. Do you just open your mouth to change feet? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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