manxfisherman Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 7 hours ago, BriT said: The bridge is probably a thank you for the 30% of project costs that have gone into the previous mayors back pocket. To be fair to Mayor Joe, if IoM gov had paid him off like they should have it would have been built by now. He may have been corrupt but shit got done in that city under his watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 On 8/16/2022 at 4:29 PM, 0bserver said: Let's hope they don't repeat the stunt this time around! Although we would get by just fine without Liverpool. Except we wouldn’t. We would get by but not just fine. Liverpool is 60 miles or so south of Heysham. It has been estimated that at least 90% of traffic disembarking the boat (vehicular and pedestrian ) goes south from Liverpool, or to Liverpool itself. Petrol costs are what £8 or so per gallon and at an average mpg of 39 mpg to get from Heysham to continue from Liverpool ( well you do the maths) . Not forgetting the time lost for both car and foot passengers to get to a starting point of Liverpool or wherever on the same latitude. And this would apply both ways so effectively an unnecessary 120 miles. Not forgetting of course the environmental impact of all those extra miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, manxfisherman said: To be fair to Mayor Joe, if IoM gov had paid him off like they should have it would have been built by now. He may have been corrupt but shit got done in that city under his watch. Seriously, you’re a fan of corruption? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 35 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Except we wouldn’t. We would get by but not just fine. Liverpool is 60 miles or so south of Heysham. It has been estimated that at least 90% of traffic disembarking the boat (vehicular and pedestrian ) goes south from Liverpool, or to Liverpool itself. Petrol costs are what £8 or so per gallon and at an average mpg of 39 mpg to get from Heysham to continue from Liverpool ( well you do the maths) . Not forgetting the time lost for both car and foot passengers to get to a starting point of Liverpool or wherever on the same latitude. And this would apply both ways so effectively an unnecessary 120 miles. Not forgetting of course the environmental impact of all those extra miles Wow, in the world of stupid, you truly are the king… 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: Except we wouldn’t. We would get by but not just fine. Liverpool is 60 miles or so south of Heysham. It has been estimated that at least 90% of traffic disembarking the boat (vehicular and pedestrian ) goes south from Liverpool, or to Liverpool itself. Petrol costs are what £8 or so per gallon and at an average mpg of 39 mpg to get from Heysham to continue from Liverpool ( well you do the maths) . Not forgetting the time lost for both car and foot passengers to get to a starting point of Liverpool or wherever on the same latitude. And this would apply both ways so effectively an unnecessary 120 miles. Not forgetting of course the environmental impact of all those extra miles We would be fine. Liverpool is a nice to have. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: Wow, in the world of stupid, you truly are the king… Wow! Add something to the debate or just don't bother to reply, it's not mandatory I hope your Blue Roll can cope with your spittle !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: Except we wouldn’t. We would get by but not just fine. Liverpool is 60 miles or so south of Heysham. It has been estimated that at least 90% of traffic disembarking the boat (vehicular and pedestrian ) goes south from Liverpool, or to Liverpool itself. Petrol costs are what £8 or so per gallon and at an average mpg of 39 mpg to get from Heysham to continue from Liverpool ( well you do the maths) . Not forgetting the time lost for both car and foot passengers to get to a starting point of Liverpool or wherever on the same latitude. And this would apply both ways so effectively an unnecessary 120 miles. Not forgetting of course the environmental impact of all those extra miles From Manchester we prefer Heysham because with the new spur road it's very much the stress free option. The traffic through Liverpool can be so shit sometimes it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the amount of fuel used between the two was similar. I'll check it out. Incidentally not sure of your 90% of passengers head south. Especially during TT & MGP where most of it goes East. Please post up your source. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Given that the expenditure on the SPCO now approaches, or exceeds, 300 million, in what generation will they be able to luxuriate in the returns from the purchase ! Life line yes a very good move, financial investment ......... crap ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 8 hours ago, P.K. said: From Manchester we prefer Heysham because with the new spur road it's very much the stress free option. The traffic through Liverpool can be so shit sometimes it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the amount of fuel used between the two was similar. I'll check it out. Incidentally not sure of your 90% of passengers head south. Especially during TT & MGP where most of it goes East. Please post up your source. Thanks. It’s an estimate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Not even an "educated guess". I often head to/from the south, but far prefer to use Heysham than Liverpool. As the VoR says, the roads through Liverpool are shit. Getting out of Heysham on the new link road is bliss, whether heading north or south. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, monasqueen said: Not even an "educated guess". I often head to/from the south, but far prefer to use Heysham than Liverpool. As the VoR says, the roads through Liverpool are shit. Getting out of Heysham on the new link road is bliss, whether heading north or south. Not bliss for foot passengers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360 View Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, monasqueen said: Not even an "educated guess". I often head to/from the south, but far prefer to use Heysham than Liverpool. As the VoR says, the roads through Liverpool are shit. Getting out of Heysham on the new link road is bliss, whether heading north or south. Not bliss for train users either 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said: It’s an estimate Ah yes, a pure guesstimate. Or BS as it's known. I would like to know how the costs spiralled so completely out of control from the original basis? Someone's responsible for getting it very very wrong. What's needed is a Blamestorming Meeting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, P.K. said: What's needed is a Blamestorming Meeting... IOM Government don't do this at all, that's why we are in so much sh1t ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxfisherman Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 11 hours ago, Passing Time said: Seriously, you’re a fan of corruption? Not really, no, and nor did I say so. Mayor Joe, members of his family and his circle of friends should probably be in jail. What I am saying is that there has been a clear pathway to successful development in that city from more than 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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