2112 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 The NPM reports that the arrival of the Manxman is going to be late, as faults were discovered during sea trials. They have to repaired by contractors and the shipyard, followed by sea trials. Therefore it won’t be ready for June. Like with Liverpool Landing Stage, which may or not be ready for this summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) What are the odds on them both being ready for TT 2024? Edited January 31, 2023 by monasqueen 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, cissolt said: Has a budget and/or project plan ever been published? Or indeed created? Infinite money projects are the preserve of the emirate states, not a tiny island in a recession. New boat broken already? https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/manxmans-delivery-date-delayed-by-significant-problems-in-vessels-systems-591827 Comical reporting - wtf is significant problems? Is it totally fucked? I’m sure Minister Thomas and Professor Ashford the islands shipping engineering expert will keep the island informed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, monasqueen said: What are the odds on them both being ready for TT 2014? 10 years ago😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Sorry, my edit was too slow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, 2112 said: The NPM reports that the arrival of the Manxman is going to be late, as faults were discovered during sea trials. They have to repaired by contractors and the shipyard, followed by sea trials. Therefore it won’t be ready for June. Like with Liverpool Landing Stage, which may or not be ready for this summer. They didn’t say it won’t be ready for June. They said departure from Korea would be delayed. It was due to leave before end February and arrive 4 weeks later. Then inspections, passenger certification, berthing trials and crew familiarisation through April May.. Its first sea trial was 10 December. Mainly manoeuvres. Very slow. Alleged to have stripped a set of bearings on one drive shaft. Went out again 28/29 January, for what was supposed to be speed trial. Only hit 19kts. Was supposed to be able to hit 26kts. Sea trials take place before delivery and acceptance for good reason. It’s not like a Ford Escort. Once accepted and delivered you can’t just take it back under warranty. However Im a bit confused by the MR interview with Brian Thompson who said the issue was with the gearbox. I was under the impression that the engines were used to generate electricity that powered the electric motors which direct drive the propellers. I didn’t think such a system involved a gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 ManxForums reported on this same gearbox issue several weeks ago, did it not? Once again proving to be the Islands most reliable source for news. Unless it comes from @offshoremanxman or @Banker 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, John Wright said: They didn’t say it won’t be ready for June. They said departure from Korea would be delayed. It was due to leave before end February and arrive 4 weeks later. Then inspections, passenger certification, berthing trials and crew familiarisation through April May.. Its first sea trial was 10 December. Mainly manoeuvres. Very slow. Alleged to have stripped a set of bearings on one drive shaft. Went out again 28/29 January, for what was supposed to be speed trial. Only hit 19kts. Was supposed to be able to hit 26kts. Sea trials take place before delivery and acceptance for good reason. It’s not like a Ford Escort. Once accepted and delivered you can’t just take it back under warranty. However Im a bit confused by the MR interview with Brian Thompson who said the issue was with the gearbox. I was under the impression that the engines were used to generate electricity that powered the electric motors which direct drive the propellers. I didn’t think such a system involved a gearbox. I did question the gearbox thing previously with electric final drives but it's possibly some form of reduction gearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Cabbage 2 ? Nothing would surprise me where capital projects and or purchases are undertaken ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkNGoode Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, John Wright said: They didn’t say it won’t be ready for June. They said departure from Korea would be delayed. It was due to leave before end February and arrive 4 weeks later. Then inspections, passenger certification, berthing trials and crew familiarisation through April May.. Its first sea trial was 10 December. Mainly manoeuvres. Very slow. Alleged to have stripped a set of bearings on one drive shaft. Went out again 28/29 January, for what was supposed to be speed trial. Only hit 19kts. Was supposed to be able to hit 26kts. Sea trials take place before delivery and acceptance for good reason. It’s not like a Ford Escort. Once accepted and delivered you can’t just take it back under warranty. However Im a bit confused by the MR interview with Brian Thompson who said the issue was with the gearbox. I was under the impression that the engines were used to generate electricity that powered the electric motors which direct drive the propellers. I didn’t think such a system involved a gearbox. I presume the article had changed since you originally read it as unfortunately now clearly reads it is delayed. Fingers crossed it can be sorted in good time although I bet there is an extra cost and it is passed on to us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, SuffolkNGoode said: I presume the article had changed since you originally read it as unfortunately now clearly reads it is delayed. Fingers crossed it can be sorted in good time although I bet there is an extra cost and it is passed on to us! It’s delayed. They don’t know how long for. There’s no time estimate, so June is just 2112 speculating. The plan was for her to arrive March and take familiarisation sailings through May. She was to take over fully just before TT. But tickets, seats, cabins, have only been sold at Ben capacity levels - just in case. If it’s not been constructed to plan and technical specs the yard has to do for free. The problem comes if the yard says the marine architects got the design and spec wrong! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, John Wright said: It’s delayed. They don’t know how long for. There’s no time estimate, so June is just 2112 speculating. The plan was for her to arrive March and take familiarisation sailings through May. She was to take over fully just before TT. But tickets, seats, cabins, have only been sold at Ben capacity levels - just in case. If it’s not been constructed to plan and technical specs the yard has to do for free. The problem comes if the yard says the marine architects got the design and spec wrong! Its the wrong Gauge for the Irish Sea .................. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 42 minutes ago, John Wright said: If it’s not been constructed to plan and technical specs the yard has to do for free. The problem comes if the yard says the marine architects got the design and spec wrong! A bit like DOI messing up the Prom design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Cinderella said: Thomas still has a target to haveLiverpool terminal open this summer: government speak for ‘not a chance’. And of course it is all delayed due to bad weather. Too funny. BTW in government speak "This summer" translates to the 1st October or maybe Autumn Equinox at a push. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: Its the wrong Gauge for the Irish Sea .................. It's the wrong type of sea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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