John Wright Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Yes , you’d think they planned it..ohh wait And back to the increased cost of the boat that only can go there 6 months of the year I believe. Why can the boat only go there 6 months per year? And what price increase for the new boat? When? How much by? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Two-lane said: "Funding for a new £3.5m Isle of Man ferry terminal in Liverpool has been approved by the Manx parliament. The existing facility at the Pier Head landing stage is "nearing the end of its operational life", an infrastructure spokesman said." Ah, those were the days. DontLaughPlease.mp3 127.94 kB · 6 downloads So this last minute money grab is 300% of the original budget, let alone all of the other overspends. I see Mr Thomas fails to mention the final cost or tell us it's still "value for money". Maybe they should just move the decimal point to the right two places and be done. After all the reserve seems to be jsut another piggy bank to raid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, John Wright said: Why can the boat only go there 6 months per year? And what price increase for the new boat? When? How much by? With freight allegedly. Price for boat. Mmm they haven’t said how much final price will be. Despite being asked for it. Will be amazed if it’s not more than current costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Just now, Numbnuts said: With freight allegedly. Price for boat. Mmm they haven’t said how much final price will be. Despite being asked for it. Will be amazed if it’s not more than current costs The boats, both of them, can use it all year round, for cars, passengers, coaches. The reality is the Manannan will go between April and October ( no freight ) and Manxman will do one round trip every Saturday and Sunday November to March. Just like BMC used to do to Birkenhead. Freight is emergency only. There is also an operating hours curfew. Manxman contract with Koreans was supposed to be fixed price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Would love to be the developers, every so often just say right let's see how much we can get out of them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: And back to the increased cost of the boat that only can go there 6 months of the year I believe. The Manxman can go there all year round. The Manxman won’t go there during the summer because the Manannan will. It'll be a winter weekend thing, like when the Ben used to go to Birkenhead on winter weekends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 An MLC said to me it's 120 million ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, asitis said: An MLC said to me it's 120 million ! Hooper told me £100M two years ago so it's more than likely true. Will this latest request be the last though....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, asitis said: An MLC said to me it's 120 million ! Presumably, before the latest + 10 million emerged from the woodwork. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, CallMeCurious said: Any money not spent will be returned to general reserves. Ever the optomist eh? The fact that you need even more money at this late stage of the project means there have been even more monumental fuck-ups that they couldn't hide and now have to do something about them. Nothing ever changes. It’s an absolute piss take now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, CallMeCurious said: So this last minute money grab is 300% of the original budget, let alone all of the other overspends. I see Mr Thomas fails to mention the final cost or tell us it's still "value for money". Maybe they should just move the decimal point to the right two places and be done. After all the reserve seems to be jsut another piggy bank to raid. Probably why he won't say what the cost is. He knows full well the IOM has been fucked over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Let's see now which highly-paid IOM experts steered us into this bottomless barrel of shit? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlebushy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Back in 2015, the Steam Packet said Peel Ports would invest £15m in a replacement facility for the ageing Pier Head terminal - but would require a long-term financial commitment from the ferry operator. This would have come at no cost to the public purse. But then the government got involved and the Manx taxpayer is now footing the entire bill. https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/fresh-questions-over-case-for-ferry-project-240766 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Roxanne said: I wonder if Tim Crookall is still laughing about it. Hopefully. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, John Wright said: The boats, both of them, can use it all year round, for cars, passengers, coaches. The reality is the Manannan will go between April and October ( no freight ) and Manxman will do one round trip every Saturday and Sunday November to March. Just like BMC used to do to Birkenhead. Freight is emergency only. There is also an operating hours curfew. Manxman contract with Koreans was supposed to be fixed price. Accompanied freight only. No unaccompanied freight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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