2112 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, ian rush said: I’m surprised Moulton and Robertshaw haven’t been on wanking each other off about this yet. That’s a bit harsh. In all fairness I’m sure they will be doing something on this particular topic especially as CM Cannan opened his big mouth, without putting his brain into gear. Besides IOMG seem to like issuing SLAPPS, so Moulton probably has to tread carefully, be creative and think logically. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 This all seems to be the covering fanfare for the Expert Project Oversight Board, which in turn looks like it is most likely to attract retired CS who ran governmental capital projects who will report to CS who were heavily involved in the projects which led to the need for a EPOB. oh dear 😅 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, english zloty said: This all seems to be the covering fanfare for the Expert Project Oversight Board, which in turn looks like it is most likely to attract retired CS who ran governmental capital projects who will report to CS who were heavily involved in the projects which led to the need for a EPOB. oh dear 😅 Horse stable door springs to mind ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I'm not sure but I think a 'slapp' has to refer to a particular situation. There may be ways around this if other media report it? BBC anyone there? Moulton could appeal to Alf to lift this order or threat, if Alf has nothing personal involved, he can just hang the proponents out to dry!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 HAHAHAHA amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 8 hours ago, NoTailT said: The super cautious expert project technical information consultants ('sceptics') will lead the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 The advert would seem to infer that we had unqualified people with no relevant experience in the past ! Which may of course explain many of the cock ups which have financially crippled public finances ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, asitis said: The advert would seem to infer that we had unqualified people with no relevant experience in the past ! Which may of course explain many of the cock ups which have financially crippled public finances ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 the chef executive and leadership team of the DOI should always have either civil engineering qualifications or running capitol projects , we should not need a separate board of advisors , trouble with the civil service is its always convenient to move someone with no real experience into an area just because its Muggins turn for the job or they want to promote someone sideways 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarley Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: I'm not sure whether or not heads have rolled, but eyes most certainly have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Omobono said: the chef executive and leadership team of the DOI should always have either civil engineering qualifications or running capitol projects , we should not need a separate board of advisors , trouble with the civil service is its always convenient to move someone with no real experience into an area just because its Muggins turn for the job or they want to promote someone sideways This lack of expertise and the lack of oversight allowing for it...has probably cost us over £1 Billion in overspend on numerous projects over at least the past 10 years alone. From the airport to road maintenance, construction and port projects. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) Let's not forget golden handshakes. Gardening leave, payoffs, pensions and the old favourite brown envelopes. Nearly forgot the keep your trap shut NDA's. Edited July 26, 2023 by Dirty Buggane Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: Let's not forget golden handshakes. Gardening leave, payoffs, pensions and the old favourite brown envelopes. Nearly forgot the keep your trap shut NDA's. Appointments made on the basis of political expedience, promotional/structural/career necessity, mates, rels and toadies. Rather than qualifications and relevant experience (or at least any aptitude). Rife throughout the IoM PS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Of course they knew exactly how many civil engineers the DoI had and if they had the relevant qualifications[1]. Even as malfunctioning[2] an HR Department as IOMG's will know what these people's official titles are and what their cvs say. What they don't want to reveal is just how few of those who are being paid to do the jobs have the right or relevant qualifications or experience. Especially when those at the top of the hierarchy don't either. People are appointed to jobs because they are mates or mates of mates or a good Manxie and happen to work in vaguely the right field - as 'consultants' say or 'engineers'. Failing that, they are good bullshitters who don't seem intelligent or dedicated enough to threaten those appointing them. The only priority is maintaining an easy life - and that applies to most of the politicians as well. Don't expect things to improve. Thomas has just been sacked for wanting to follow the advice of experts and do things properly, rather than listen to those who made attractive promises. [1] I bet Beamans knew as well, but in consultancy you don't keep getting jobs from the same client if you tell them what the truth is, rather than they want to hear. And Beamans get a lot of work from IOMG. Of course the appointment of Beamans illustrates the basic problem here - they don't specialise in such reorganisations (at least anywhere else) but they are mates. [2] I nearly wrote 'useless', but they're actually far worse than that. Even Cannan realised this, promised reform as top priority over a year ago and then did ... nothing. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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