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2 hours ago, Two-lane said:

Nice, but is it necessary and what was the cost (plus maintenance)? That is the only location that the "airbridge" can be used. Every other port the Steam Packet goes to, the passengers have to use some other method.

Would you pay extra to use the airbridge?

Their used to be one on Victoria Pier for the Lady of Mann. Don't think it stayed there long. But it was useful.

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10 hours ago, Hairy Poppins said:

Their used to be one on Victoria Pier for the Lady of Mann. Don't think it stayed there long. But it was useful.

I don’t recall either. Only ever used gangplanks. A fixed structure wouldn’t be much use in tidal Douglas with a fixed quay side.

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29 minutes ago, Manxman2000 said:

Chunks of it were used at the Castletown Golf Links Hotel  also several garden sheds around Douglas.  

That was just a “tunnel” to protect foot passengers from the elements between Sea Terminal and ship. Did it have a hydraulic walkway with changing level to embark?.

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5 minutes ago, John Wright said:

And, so it begins. Manannan arrival in Liverpool  delayed by an hour due to tidal conditions in the Mersey

 

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23 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

Did tidal conditions also affect the service at the other landing stage?

 

I think the clue is in the name - Half-Tide Dock. (Not LOW tide dock)

The Manannan was due to arrive there at around 10.00 am, which coincides with today's low tide, in Liverpool.

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22 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

Did tidal conditions also affect the service at the other landing stage?

 

 

7 minutes ago, Harry Lamb said:

I wondered that, too.

Not to the same extent. The floating landing stage is away from the dock wall by quite some distance. One of the reasons it was built. Not just for the steam packet, but the Empress boats, and predecessors.

So there isn’t a wall against which suspended mud can deposit out of the murky Mersey.

The new terminal is right against the dock wall and that area was notorious for silting. It was supposed to have been dredged however, and the dock wall strengthened.

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Probably a draft issue at low tide 

Manannan (draft 3.7m)

Manxman (draft 5.6m) - will mean if Manxman starts going there, timetable more likely to be dictated by the tide....

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3 minutes ago, John Wright said:

So there isn’t a wall against which suspended mud can deposit out of the murky Mersey.

The new terminal is right against the dock wall and that area was notorious for silting. It was supposed to have been dredged however, and the dock wall strengthened.

Surely that was thought of during the design...... ah...

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and the new flagship looks as tho it might be cancelled as a force 6-7 expected tonight - spending close to £200M gives us a terminal unusable at low tide and a boat that cannot get into the harbour for which it was supposedly designed in a wind of force 7.
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