2112 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 4 hours ago, Beelzebub3 said: CT was DOI minister for part of the build and will have had a peak at the books, so I would assume he will know the answer or where the skeletons are buried. If he did not have his finger on the pulse at the DOI as minister who really is pulling the strings? I suspect that the answer will be as revealing as the CS are prepared to divulge. If something untoward happened, and if he was aware, perhaps, he could use his moral conscience and tell the Manx public - cathartic unburdening. The public have a right to know, sadly, it won’t be the end of this nonsense which will run and run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I see they designed it to blend in with the surroundings, really catching that Liverpool dockside charme from the outset. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 Awaiting responses to Chris Thomas' queries as to details of where the money was spent and who received what... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 37 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Awaiting responses to Chris Thomas' queries as to details of where the money was spent and who received what... But you pal already knows doesn't he. Why not pass his contact details onto Chris. Cut out the middle man! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: But you pal already knows doesn't he. Why not pass his contact details onto Chris. Cut out the middle man! 😂 As you're so sure that "modern project management accountancy and QS standards" can ensure that everything is perfect and nothing is lost or misappropriated, then none of us have anything to worry about, do we? Nor does Chris Thomas have any reason to be asking questions on the subject. Clearly, he is misguided and wasting Tynwald time. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: As you're so sure that "modern project management accountancy and QS standards" can ensure that everything is perfect and nothing is lost or misappropriated, then none of us have anything to worry about, do we? Nor does Chris Thomas have any reason to be asking questions on the subject. Clearly, he is misguided and wasting Tynwald time. 😂 I never said it was perfect. Maybe we do have something to worry about, I just don't think it's crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 For the amount of money it has cost, the place feels cheap and massively underwhelming. There better be an engineering reason why so much cash was needed because the building is basic to say the least. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 An enquiry into this debacle would be long and add a mil or so to the costs. By then we would all be probably 'used' to the anomalies??? Which is often the purpose of an 'inquiry'? In the mean time, we could be given the costs to date, the contractual costs in the pipeline and constituencies. Not really hard??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted Saturday at 07:41 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:41 AM Todays bullshit from the DoI on the NPM is absolutely pathetic and laughable. The DoI has refused to release the snagging list for the Liverpool Ferry Terminal. Its excuse is ‘the DoI has to protect its commercial interests’ WTF? It has spent between £70m-£100+m on this project using taxpayer funds. The only commercial element is the cafe upstairs, selling hot drinks, crisps and biscuits. Do you think the DoI could make a cafe run at a profit? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted Saturday at 07:51 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:51 AM Just now, 2112 said: Todays bullshit from the DoI on the NPM is absolutely pathetic and laughable. The DoI has refused to release the snagging list for the Liverpool Ferry Terminal. Its excuse is ‘the DoI has to protect its commercial interests’ WTF? It has spent between £70m-£100+m on this project using taxpayer funds. The only commercial element is the cafe upstairs, selling hot drinks, crisps and biscuits. Do you think the DoI could make a cafe run at a profit? Yes, but if they think there is a right to claim against certain parties, they are not going to want to prejudice their position or any negotiations to rectify by publicising the issues. The deeper issue is that there is a perceived lack of transparency in everything that IOMG does, possibly justified in many cases, and public trust and confidence has been lost. That doesn't mean that we should have the ins and outs of the proverbial, but that they must be more open and direct in their communication. That will restore trust so that when some things cannot be divulged, for good reason, the public, even though they may not like it, will accept it. Tomorrow's MR piece with the CM will be interesting. Let's see if he tackles the restoration in public trust. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted Saturday at 09:39 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:39 AM 1 hour ago, 2112 said: Todays bullshit from the DoI on the NPM is absolutely pathetic and laughable. NPM - hilarious, never gets old, etc… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted Saturday at 09:41 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:41 AM 1 hour ago, Gladys said: Tomorrow's MR piece with the CM will be interesting. Let's see if he tackles the restoration in public trust. He might use those words - but I wouldn’t bet on anything substantial or detailed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted Saturday at 09:42 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:42 AM 1 minute ago, Jarndyce said: He might use those words - but I wouldn’t bet on anything substantial or detailed. Safe bet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KERED Posted Saturday at 11:50 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:50 AM 3 hours ago, Gladys said: Yes, but if they think there is a right to claim against certain parties, they are not going to want to prejudice their position or any negotiations to rectify by publicising the issues. The deeper issue is that there is a perceived lack of transparency in everything that IOMG does, possibly justified in many cases, and public trust and confidence has been lost. That doesn't mean that we should have the ins and outs of the proverbial, but that they must be more open and direct in their communication. That will restore trust so that when some things cannot be divulged, for good reason, the public, even though they may not like it, will accept it. Tomorrow's MR piece with the CM will be interesting. Let's see if he tackles the restoration in public trust. Yes - interesting maybe. But will probably be, as usual, disappointing. By the time the MR boys and girls have finished, Alfie will feel as if he has been savaged by a couple of marshmallows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted Saturday at 01:41 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 01:41 PM 5 hours ago, Gladys said: Tomorrow's MR piece with the CM will be interesting. Let's see if he tackles the restoration in public trust. He's been talking about that since Oct 2021 when he sacked Black. And again since April 22 following Ranson and emptying Greenhow. Not much to show for it so far, if anything it's becoming more and more risible. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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