woolley Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Qui est-il? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 3 hours ago, mojomonkey said: Not sure how you can assert a fact when the event wasn't even over but hey ho. Turnout was lower than normal for French elections (presumably showing that both candidates were unloved by the remainder of the electorate) but still significantly higher than UK elections for many years and higher than the turnout for the EU referendum. because they had live data from the some polling stations ffs, and 1/3 that voted didn't vote for either candidate, hardly a ringing endorsement..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, woody2 said: because they had live data from the some polling stations ffs, and 1/3 that voted didn't vote for either candidate, hardly a ringing endorsement..... We're not disagreeing on the opinions on the candidates, but where do you get the 1/3 that voted not voting for either candidate though? The table on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_2017 gives a breakdown of the 1st and 2nd rounds of voting. Turnout for the 1st round was 77.77% and for the 2nd round 74.56%, considered below normal by French standards but high compared to most countries (significantly higher than the UK and the USA). In the 1st round the level of spoilt votes (protest votes?) was low at 2.57% of the vote, it was higher in the 2nd round at 11.47% of the vote but that still does not equate to one third of the voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 bbc quoted it but looking at your post,it must be abstentions and blank/null votes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Still, 10 million votes for a party that wasn't even in the running a few years back is huge. Definitely a wake up call, but I think Macron will set them right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, woody2 said: bbc quoted it but looking at your post,it must be abstentions and blank/null votes..... I thought you considered the BBC to be libtard FAKE NEWS? Anyway it can't be that, even looking at the 2nd ballot the spoilt votes is a percentage of the actual cast votes and the abstentions is a percentage of the eligible electorate. So it simply isn't a case of adding 11.47% to the abstentions of 25.44%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: I thought you considered the BBC to be libtard FAKE NEWS? Anyway it can't be that, even looking at the 2nd ballot the spoilt votes is a percentage of the actual cast votes and the abstentions is a percentage of the eligible electorate. So it simply isn't a case of adding 11.47% to the abstentions of 25.44%. looks like thats what they did..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, woody2 said: looks like thats what they did..... And you appear to have freely accepted it until the facts were checked. I suppose it highlights the dangers of believing everything you read without checking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 minute ago, mojomonkey said: And you appear to have freely accepted it until the facts were checked. I suppose it highlights the dangers of believing everything you read without checking it. no, that was the fact given when the result was first announced..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 minute ago, woody2 said: no, that was the fact given when the result was first announced..... But presumably you now accept it was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: But presumably you now accept it was wrong. nope, thats what was said at the time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Just now, woody2 said: nope, thats what was said at the time.... Crikey, that's not what I asked. Not sure I can make it any simpler to understand but I'll try. Do you accept that the statement made earlier (allegedly by the BBC, though not actually referenced) has subsequently been shown to be incorrect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 But it's wrong. You've been presented with new evidence but you are sticking to the wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 #bbcquotingblacknightard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 54 minutes ago, Tarne said: Still, 10 million votes for a party that wasn't even in the running a few years back is huge. Definitely a wake up call, but I think Macron will set them right. The winners (En Marche) have only existed since April 2016! French politics is anything but staid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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