RIchard Britten Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, mojomonkey said: I'm happy to discuss this like adults. Can you find me any references that refer to Front National are being left wing, I'd be very interested to see them. I wouldn't hold your breath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, RIchard Britten said: I wouldn't hold your breath... I wish he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, llap said: Big government = left wing. I asked for references, referencing yourself hardly counts. Just give me one link that categorically states that Front National are left wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Except they aren't actually called the Front National Socialists, they are just Front National. The Nazi Party did have the word socialist in their party name. snp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I categorically confirm that the Front National are left wing. I'd still vote for Le Pen though because she's for leaving the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, llap said: I categorically confirm that the Front National are left wing. I'd still vote for Le Pen though because she's for leaving the EU. Please demonstrate that you are not a troll and give the link that says that Front National are left wing. I'm genuinely interested because everything I see and read defines them as right wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, mojomonkey said: Please demonstrate that you are not a troll and give the link that says that Front National are left wing. I'm genuinely interested because everything I see and read defines them as right wing. I did try to warn you. "Debating" with llap is like trying to debate with woody2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: I did try to warn you. "Debating" with llap is like trying to debate with woody2. yes, i always win against retards like you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 4 hours ago, llap said: French election: Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen to fight for presidency - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39689385 And the propaganda continues. Why do the liars at the BBC keep referring to her as "far right"? She strikes me as a centrist. If she genuinely strikes you as a centrist, I'm sorry for you, as you must lack any sense of political reality. I assume that you are just being contrarian as usual. The French courts have ruled that she is a Fascist, and fascism is usually described as being at the extreme right of the left/right political spectrum. The BBC aren't lying about it, they are just using the generally accepted left/centre/right shorthand, in common with nearly all narrators. http://en.rfi.fr/france/20140410-front-nationals-le-pen-can-be-called-fascist-court-rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I guess I'm talking to people who are just too ill informed to comprehend what I'm saying. I'll have to start luncheoning with Geoff Corkish for more informed discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, llap said: I categorically confirm that the Front National are left wing. I'd still vote for Le Pen though because she's for leaving the EU. It's utterly irrelevant whether ugly populism is relatively left wing or relatively right wing. EU membership is written into the French constitution. As President she would have no power to change that. Marine Le Pen and the FN stand for the "gravy train" which you mentioned earlier in the thread. Also - polls consistently show that many FN voters are opposed to leaving the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, llap said: I guess I'm talking to people who are just too ill informed to comprehend what I'm saying. I'll have to start luncheoning with Geoff Corkish for more informed discussion. Then inform me and answer my simple request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 At least Pongo seems to grasp the topic beyond binary left right. Yes, it's all more complex than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, mojomonkey said: Then inform me and answer my simple request. I already posted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, llap said: I already posted it. Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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