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Andy Onchan

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54 minutes ago, Uhtred said:

Is Flybe's maintenance under question or are the Q400s just crap anyway?

In more aviation news, the word on the street - or perhaps more pertinently, on the taxiway - is that the London City service operated by Loganair (for BA) will be dropping the Saab 2000 to be replaced by an ATR42. Won't affect me - I never use that route as the fares are extortionate.

16 Dash 8 400 and 2 Embraers

Loganair are a pain. I’m booked to Edinburgh in February. 3 weeks on from wheelchair assistance request they haven’t substantively responded. I’ve chased, they ask for different info every time. Now they state they have to contact ground handling at both Edinburgh and IoM.

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2 hours ago, John Wright said:

1 incident every 3 weeks over 12 months. What does that reduce to in terms of rate per take off/landing, miles flown, planes in fleet?

How does that compare to Stobart or other regional operators?

Perhaps we should be asking.... why shouldn't it be 1 incident every 6 months? Every incident is one too many?

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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

16 Dash 8 400 and 2 Embraers

Loganair are a pain. I’m booked to Edinburgh in February. 3 weeks on from wheelchair assistance request they haven’t substantively responded. I’ve chased, they ask for different info every time. Now they state they have to contact ground handling at both Edinburgh and IoM.

Let me know if you want the CEO’s email.

I had to waste £126 worth of his time once after they wouldn’t refund me that amount, having saved them several hundred.

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Thanks. I’ll soldier on. Most airlines have an auto process as you book, or immediately you get the confirmation there’s a click through. Logan you have to download and print a form, fill manually, scan and then send it back.

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3 hours ago, John Wright said:

16 Dash 8 400 and 2 Embraers

Loganair are a pain. I’m booked to Edinburgh in February. 3 weeks on from wheelchair assistance request they haven’t substantively responded. I’ve chased, they ask for different info every time. Now they state they have to contact ground handling at both Edinburgh and IoM.

That’s pretty dreadful. I thought the Scots were organised people.

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19 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

I travel with Loganair and find them more customer centric than most others. But clearly they need to up their game with passengers requiring assistance. 

I’ve not experienced anything like it with any other airline.

And obviously I’ve flown Loganair, flagged as BA, to City.

Lets face it, it isn’t the planes. It’s airport facilities. City is  crap. They have no ambulift at all. Manchester doesn’t have one that fits turboprops. Amsterdam delivered my chair to the belt rather than the airbridge, then didn’t bother putting on a wheelchair or powered unit to transfer me. Took 30 minutes.

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Just google "dash 8 q400 landing gear problems". They have always had these issues from the start.

Wot? Worse than the ATP?

I think the Q400s get a lot of hammer from flying generally short sectors. ? Up to 8 or 10 take offs and landings and pressurisation cycles a day compared to  bigger stuff that might do one or two a day. Seems a bit of a list on that link though.

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