Frances Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Thanks Utah - I've posted before on the ministerial structure adopted - IMO totally wrong for a small admin (even tho it believes it operates above its weight in the international arena) - in the UK 90,000 is smaller than all country boroughs with a smaller council let alone city majors with a small inner cabinet. One option is a small elected (on a universal suffrage) Comin executive, a Keys with no ministerial role acting as legislative and oversight of the small group being elected half every 3 yrs with a committee structure with outside members to oversee + set guidance but not day-to-day control of the various departments. If it could be arranged some form of position swop, say on a 3 year period, between mid-level staff in other maybe UK (inc Scotland when this leaves in near future) , maybe Eire + NI - this could both educate + widen the staff tho there is great problem that the better local staff will be poached tho we may find some who appreciate a family friendly place to live. Edited March 7, 2020 by Frances 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 If, as currently being discussed on Twitter, a rescue plan has been sorted, I apologise for being a doubter and take my hat off to all those who have negotiated the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, Cypman said: If, as currently being discussed on Twitter, a rescue plan has been sorted, I apologise for being a doubter and take my hat off to all those who have negotiated the deal. But is it the right deal and at what cost and how long will the services last? We'll soon find out I guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 49 minutes ago, Frances said: Thanks Utah - I've posted before on the ministerial structure adopted - IMO totally wrong for a small admin (even tho it believes it operates above its weight in the international arena) - in the UK 90,000 is smaller than all country boroughs with a smaller council let alone city majors with a small inner cabinet. One option is a small elected (on a universal suffrage) Comin executive, a Keys with no ministerial role acting as legislative and oversight of the small group being elected half every 3 yrs with a committee structure with outside members to oversee + set guidance but not day-to-day control of the various departments. If it could be arranged some form of position swop, say on a 3 year period, between mid-level staff in other maybe UK (inc Scotland when this leaves in near future) , maybe Eire + NI - this could both educate + widen the staff tho there is great problem that the better local staff will be poached tho we may find some who appreciate a family friendly place to live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Non-Believer said: look on the bright side. It's helping to keep Corona out.... I saw someone buying a large box of Corona in Tesco a week or so back...... wonder what he knew? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: But is it the right deal and at what cost and how long will the services last? We'll soon find out I guess. Most likely akin to an aspirin being taken to mask a serious underlying illness. The whole transport policy needs review. We are vulnerable to the frailties of the companies who provide our vital air links and we don’t need to be. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxberry Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 As we've all said for years Except we aren't the people who get those management jobs who actually can change that decision because we end up with Spake. We're just trained peons who bring in the money... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Isn't Terry Liddiard - ex-Manx Airlines, still around? He's the voice of 'Travel Watch' on aviation matters. Bung him a few quid to come up with a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 It's now 14:15. The next departure is an EasyJet flight to LPL at 20:55. And that's it. Ditto arrivals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Thank goodness for easyjet or there would be nothing And thank goodness for their wonderful cabin baggage allowance which means so many of us fly cheaper and don't need to pay to check a bag Edited March 7, 2020 by snowman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: The whole transport policy needs review. We are vulnerable to the frailties of the companies who provide our vital air links and we don’t need to be. But the only way we can guarantee those 'vital links' would be to run our own airline and that costs Guernsey (which has about the same size of air market) about £10 million a year. Given the jaw-dropping incompetence of those running the DoI and related areas, we could probably double or triple that and add oodles more for whatever mad capital projects they feel they can justify with the extra responsibility. If all we did was to come to arrangements with particular airlines to run services that we wanted, then that would also require subsidy and there would be no guarantee that those airlines wouldn't collapse or renege out of the agreements when it no longer suited them. We'd lose the flexibility of Open Skies, have similar outcomes and have thrown away a lot of cash. And that is without considering how we would decide just what those 'vital links' were. As I wrote earlier: Quote One of the more bizarre things about travel and tourism is that the hardest-headed capitalists suddenly start believing that the world has the obligation to provide whatever they want for next to nothing. People who will lecture you for hours on the laws of supply and demand, start whinging about unfairness because it costs more for a family holiday when the schools are off. Businessmen who scream at the slightest hint of state interference, demand that airlines be made to provide flights at times when it suits them, no matter what it costs the airline or government (and whether they actually bother to use those flights anyway). It's all very odd. Actually the collapse of Flybe rather illustrates just how flexible and reactive the airline industry under Open Skies is. We are already seeing routes being taken up and bookings organised as well as things like the easyJet offer (and similar scheme from other parts of the travel industry). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, snowman said: Thank goodness for easyjet or there would be nothing And thank goodness for their wonderful cabin baggage allowance which means so many of us fly cheaper and don't need to pay to check a bag And thank god for their low fares at the moment! (Not) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 One further thought. If Stobart Air manage to start operating again on behalf of Aer Lingus Regional, should Boris not agree a trade deal with the EU, they will not be allowed to operate intra UK flights. For the purposes of aviation, IOM is in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, snowman said: Thank goodness for easyjet or there would be nothing And thank goodness for their wonderful cabin baggage allowance which means so many of us fly cheaper and don't need to pay to check a bag Have you seen the xxxxx prices!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 By increasing the price for unsold easyjet seats it supresses demand and effectively holds seats for those flybe customer who phone up to use the rescue fare If the seats were cheap there would be no seats for the rescue fare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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