Manxberry Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Don't worry everyone, https://www.gov.im/media/1366575/2019-gd-0042-2019-save-progress-report.pdf The corporatisation of the airport, where they raise prices and put revenue first will definitely attract airlines to the island. Hell, as Asitis knows with the hangar rental price rise, higher prices definitely will attract business to the airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Manxberry said: Don't worry everyone, https://www.gov.im/media/1366575/2019-gd-0042-2019-save-progress-report.pdf The corporatisation of the airport, where they raise prices and put revenue first will definitely attract airlines to the island. Hell, as Asitis knows with the hangar rental price rise, higher prices definitely will attract business to the airport. Just a string of bullshit bingo justifying a number of non jobs within government ! The airport is a dreadful place run by incompetents with little or no knowledge of aviation where strutting around with an id on a lanyard is the pinnacle of achievement. The place has absolutely no idea how to attract custom nor how to provide what visitors may want at a price they are willing to pay! Looks like the usual "cost saving" involves gouging tenants for more cash. Amazing how the public consultation for the SAVE initiative asked a number of questions, and one of the most popular if not the most popular answer, was to look closely at landowner grants and how they provide value for money. Amazing (not really) that that didn't even make the shortlist. Going back to the airport the first thing the new manager was talking about was expansion and catering for more and more and bigger aircraft, where the hell they find these people is beyond me, surely to goodness you expand when the need dictates have they learnt nothing from the fanciful figures of the past! I have never known so many ego driven incompetents banded together in an administration!!!! Edited March 9, 2020 by asitis 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxberry Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Agreed. We definitely know each other in real life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Here is a roundup of a realists view of the islands transport policy ...... it must be read with an appreciation of the salaries of the rafts of people employed to achieve this .... We have a loss making heritage attraction which has held up the improvement and refurbishment of the Douglas showpiece promenade to the detriment of its people and the island, whilst costing millions ! We have a fleet of minibuses largely sitting idle and seemingly no logic to public transport. We have two aged ships, one of which can only work for 6 months of the year due weather ! We have an airport with massively underused capacity costing long millions to run, where (particularly at the moment) there are next to no flights and no destinations! Can you imagine going into a boardroom and presenting this scenario to a board as the manager in charge! 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, asitis said: Here is a roundup of a realists view of the islands transport policy ...... it must be read with an appreciation of the salaries of the rafts of people employed to achieve this .... We have a loss making heritage attraction which has held up the improvement and refurbishment of the Douglas showpiece promenade to the detriment of its people and the island, whilst costing millions ! We have a fleet of minibuses largely sitting idle and seemingly no logic to public transport. We have two aged ships, one of which can only work for 6 months of the year due weather ! We have an airport with massively underused capacity costing long millions to run, where (particularly at the moment) there are next to no flights and no destinations! Can you imagine going into a boardroom and presenting this scenario to a board as the manager in charge! We have a £38m bespoke port in Liverpool that has no freight capacity and will sit idle often, but still need staffing... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 51 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: We have a £38m bespoke port in Liverpool that has no freight capacity and will sit idle often, but still need staffing... You don't have a terminal - yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, asitis said: Here is a roundup of a realists view of the islands transport policy ...... it must be read with an appreciation of the salaries of the rafts of people employed to achieve this .... We have a loss making heritage attraction which has held up the improvement and refurbishment of the Douglas showpiece promenade to the detriment of its people and the island, whilst costing millions ! We have a fleet of minibuses largely sitting idle and seemingly no logic to public transport. We have two aged ships, one of which can only work for 6 months of the year due weather ! We have an airport with massively underused capacity costing long millions to run, where (particularly at the moment) there are next to no flights and no destinations! Can you imagine going into a boardroom and presenting this scenario to a board as the manager in charge! I liked the picture of the new horse tram HQ down on the promenade - when's the opening ceremony? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: I liked the picture of the new horse tram HQ down on the promenade - when's the opening ceremony? Not any time soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 3 hours ago, asitis said: I have never known so many ego driven incompetents banded together in an administration!!!! It is a legacy. A legacy from a time when said incompetents were appointed and assembled by similarly ego-driven people who believed that they and the Island should be, and were, significant players on the world stages of finance and politics. Money was plentiful to the point of not being a consideration and was not a barrier to such aspirations. So those egos knew no bounds. Now times have changed. Those egos saw the writing and left the stage they thought they belonged to. What is left is the fallout. The legacy. Unfortunately due to the illusion that they were appointed under, still with the same grandiose ideas. Nobody seems to be able to install the reality check. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, GD4ELI said: I liked the picture of the new horse tram HQ down on the promenade - when's the opening ceremony? April - unlike the prom works, this job has gone to schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I suspect the bottom is about to fall out of the cruise market - why would anyone aged over 65 (the key market) spend time in close proximity to many strangers any of whom could be a vector for the virus unless they had been held in quarantine for the previous two weeks. It is the need for the car marshalling that makes the current use of the Princes landing stage unattractive to Peel Holdings who can see better returns by enlarging the cruise ship area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Frances said: I suspect the bottom is about to fall out of the cruise market - why would anyone aged over 65 (the key market) spend time in close proximity to many strangers any of whom could be a vector for the virus unless they had been held in quarantine for the previous two weeks. It is the need for the car marshalling that makes the current use of the Princes landing stage unattractive to Peel Holdings who can see better returns by enlarging the cruise ship area It will be a temporary dip, not a bottom. The virus will be cyclic, it'll rise and fall like everything in nature, and life will carry on. If you like cruising then as soon as you see the thing plateau and the media start to move on then it's the time to pick up some bargains. Same with holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I have just been to the airport private charters are now flying blood in for the hospital ! at least that priority seems to have been taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 9:59 PM, snowman said: Increase population = more flights = more destinations = more money to be made = more urgency from operators to step in = LHR Heathrow service = better BA service Brilliant! Could you arrange it in the next fortnight? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 5 hours ago, asitis said: Just a string of bullshit bingo justifying a number of non jobs within government ! The airport is a dreadful place run by incompetents with little or no knowledge of aviation where strutting around with an id on a lanyard is the pinnacle of achievement. The place has absolutely no idea how to attract custom nor how to provide what visitors may want at a price they are willing to pay! Looks like the usual "cost saving" involves gouging tenants for more cash. Amazing how the public consultation for the SAVE initiative asked a number of questions, and one of the most popular if not the most popular answer, was to look closely at landowner grants and how they provide value for money. Amazing (not really) that that didn't even make the shortlist. Going back to the airport the first thing the new manager was talking about was expansion and catering for more and more and bigger aircraft, where the hell they find these people is beyond me, surely to goodness you expand when the need dictates have they learnt nothing from the fanciful figures of the past! I have never known so many ego driven incompetents banded together in an administration!!!! There are serious disagreements down at Ronaldsway between the experienced, qualified professionals and the airport management who really have no idea what they are talking about, especially on matters of a technical nature. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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