llap Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 It's rather daft to compare a lone nutjob with a person affiliated with an international terrorist organisation which has de facto state power over a vast region of the Middle East caused by the vacuum which western governments created after the illegal war against Iraq. I see people are trying to draw a parallel and suggest there is racism or discrimination against Muslims in terms of comparative press coverage. I disagree. These are apples and oranges, as outlined in my first sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaStar Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 3 hours ago, RIchard Britten said: I note that the news is saying that this guy wasn't on any extremist watch list. Why would he be? If they monitored every angry, disenfranchised Daily Wail reading, Farage/Hopkins supporting white guy they would be stretched beyond their limits. I am sure the guys Facebook page reads like a EDL/BF/Tommy Robinson bingo checklist. Joking aside i think that's all we will find this chap was. Given the time of night that it happened it's not beyond the bounds of probability that he'd been down the pub and just saw a crowd outside a Mosque and said 'Bugger it, here we go' as he drove home. I think the likelihood that he is a terrrorist in the conventional sense is fairly low. It's a very sad thing to happen though and hopefully it will not provoke copycat attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Got to love the quote from one of his neighbours in today's Metro, beats the usual "He kept himself to himself" response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, MediaStar said: I think the likelihood that he is a terrrorist in the conventional sense is fairly low What 'conventional' sense? Sectarianism is surely one of the most difficult sorts of terrorism in that there is no political justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaStar Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, pongo said: What 'conventional' sense? Sectarianism is surely one of the most difficult sorts of terrorism in that there is no political justification. I think we'll probably just find out that he is an angry nutter with no real political or ideological affiliations who spotted an opportunity in an unplanned attack. I could be completely wrong but it doesn't look like anything to me but a lone wolf opportunist who was in the wrong place and the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Odds are his name will be something like 'Dave Brexit'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Nice one Albert, almost funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2bad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Bobbie Bobster said: Nice one Albert, almost funny! Loose use of almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Just now, j2bad said: Loose use of almost. and "funny" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2bad Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Neil Down said: and "funny" I had that covered, you boring tardis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Well...it's a kinda serious post 25% of white UK males will see this attack as a 'good' result. Where does that leave everyone else though? That's the reality of modern day UK though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'm sorry but what is a "white male"? People are not colours. To assess views based on colour and gender is really silly and not conducive to understanding society. A "white" Christian has more in common with a "black" Christian than with a "white" Muslim. A "black" atheist has more in common with a "white" atheist than with a "black" Muslim. Beliefs, ideology, socio-ecominic position, and culture are far more important than something as silly as colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 So born in Singapore, raised in Weston-Super-Mare, lives in Wales... Where are we deporting him to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: So born in Singapore, raised in Weston-Super-Mare, lives in Wales... Where are we deporting him to? Timbuktu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, llap said: Timbuktu. I think they have enough troubles without us exporting extremist Christian terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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