manxman1980 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Rog said: No. The issue is a "religion" who's followers are committed to killing those that fight against it. Prison is no solution. So there are no white British Christian murderers who have been released and go on to reoffend? You focus on religion when that is not a factor for every murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Christian suicide bombers targeting innocents? Killing in the name of Jesus? In this day and age? Is this really the time for moral equivalency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: So there are no white British Christian murderers who have been released and go on to reoffend? You focus on religion when that is not a factor for every murder. Of course it's not - but when a "religion" directs killing of unbelievers or those who insult it or its inventor or those who harm other votaries that's a whole different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, Rog said: Of course it's not - but when a "religion" directs killing of unbelievers or those who insult it or its inventor or those who harm other votaries that's a whole different matter. I think you'll be hard put to find a religion that hasn't done that at some time or other.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, P.K. said: I think you'll be hard put to find a religion that hasn't done that at some time or other.... Absolutely true. But how many in the 21st Century still advocate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Absolutely true. But how many in the 21st Century still advocate it? I think it's more about countries like the UK becoming irreligious. In 2019: Irreligious (or has no particular affiliation with any religion) - 49% Anglican Christian - 17% Non-Anglican Christian - 17% Roman Catholic - 8% Islamic - 5% Other beliefs (inc. Pastafarian, Jedi etc) - 4% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, P.K. said: I think you'll be hard put to find a religion that hasn't done that at some time or other.... Well not exactly. Although a (very) great many people who claimed to be Christians undertook no end of atrocities what they did ran entirely counter to the teaching of Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ďouglas Peel Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 12/6/2019 at 11:53 AM, Lagman said: Parables and allegory, most of these religions seem to be based on astrotheology ultimately. Moses either had spiritual rays of light (like a halo?) or maybe he had a keratin problem - http://www.weirdhistorian.com/human-horns/ Should be able to squeeze another 10 mph when clocked at the Sulby speed trap,however the guys at the Arai stand have a problem if they want to get her on their sponsorship roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxberry Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 https://news.sky.com/story/emergency-legislation-to-end-early-release-of-terrorists-11925700 Emergency Legislation to end early release of terrorists... by changing it from 50% to 66% of sentence served. What an utter farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Manxberry said: https://news.sky.com/story/emergency-legislation-to-end-early-release-of-terrorists-11925700 Emergency Legislation to end early release of terrorists... by changing it from 50% to 66% of sentence served. What an utter farce. Didn't take long for Boris to make false promises didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxberry Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Sadly they're the most politically right party so there's no one else to vote for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 it's emergency legislation to give time to pass the new legislation..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, Manxberry said: Sadly they're the most politically far right party.... Fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 47 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Didn't take long for Boris to make false promises didn't it? Johnson always promises everything because he has no intention of delivering on anything he has ever promised. Unless there's something in it for him, obviously..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Non-Believer said: Absolutely true. But how many in the 21st Century still advocate it? 2016/17/18.....all religion based attacks throughout europe came from jihadists..... i see the pc brigade are already working on a legal challenge to bj's new law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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