woolley Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, P.K. said: So why don't you promote an Islamic pogrom? Which would achieve what, exactly? Extreme measures don't bring solutions, but denying you even have a problem will bring mayhem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, woolley said: Which would achieve what, exactly? Extreme measures don't bring solutions, but denying you even have a problem will bring mayhem. It's much simpler than that: "There's only one planet. Which means we all have to share it...." The vast majority of Muslims want to live peaceful lives and bring up their kids in a safe environment - just like all the rest of us. They hate it when there are incidents like the other day because they know the blame will be indiscriminate and will fall on them all collectively. A massive step forward would be to stop the mindset that causes that. But unfortunately revenge is a very powerful emotion along with racism. Rooting out the evil that uses Islam as a cover to radicalise is the other half of the problem. Unfortunately history is littered with extremists committing appalling atrocities under the guise of religion. I don't want to conclude that it's always been like that and therefore it always will be. But there are no populist solutions, that's for sure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, quilp said: I really would like to know as you obviously know why extremists kill children and adults around the globe. You're the one seemingly with all the answers... Why did the IRA etc kill children in Britain? The comparison between terrorist organisations is perfectly valid. And I don't have all the answers but I know that posting hate against a group of people based on religion is not going to solve anything. In addition I have lived in Manchester and have never encountered the problems some people are reporting. The most threatening behaviour I have experienced is pissed/drugged up white males. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 15 hours ago, sir nige said: 2016/17/18.....all religion based attacks throughout europe came from jihadists..... No even remotely true. Nice to see a new sock/troll account throwing its hat into the ring with an opening nonsense post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 53 minutes ago, quilp said: I really would like to know as you obviously know why extremists kill children and adults around the globe. It might something to do with us invading their countries on a whim, utterly destroying their infrastructure in the name of freedom, and bombing kids in to paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: No even remotely true. data is from europol....... they don't class ireland/ni/spain terrorism as religious.......blame the eu...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: It might something to do with us invading their countries on a whim, utterly destroying their infrastructure in the name of freedom, and bombing kids in to paste. first uk jihadists sentenced in 1998 and most are born in the uk...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, RIchard Britten said: It might something to do with us invading their countries on a whim, utterly destroying their infrastructure in the name of freedom, and bombing kids in to paste. You're right. And then the clincher. You invite young men from the very countries you have been invading and bombing to move to Europe en masse and hordes of them take you up on the offer. That's really going to end well isn't it. Failure in understanding of cause and effect there for sure. This is the kind of mentality the West is led by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, woolley said: You're right. And then the clincher. You invite young men from the very countries you have been invading and bombing to move to Europe en masse and hotdes of them take you up on the offer. That's really going to end well isn't it. Failure in understanding of cause and effect there for sure. This is the kind of mentality the West is led by. But that is your mass hysteria fear of Muslims talking. You automatically assume all those young men are terrorists. So then you treat them with suspicion and fear. Your very actions create the atmosphere of animosity that creates the breeding ground of resentment that is the ideal situation the jihadists look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, sir nige said: first uk jihadists sentenced in 1998 and most are born in the uk...... Welcome back woody2... I thought the almost incoherent rambling and scattergun posting style was familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, woolley said: You're right. And then the clincher. You invite young men from the very countries you have been invading and bombing to move to Europe en masse and hotdes of them take you up on the offer. That's really going to end well isn't it. Failure in understanding of cause and effect there for sure. This is the kind of mentality the West is led by. UK numbers please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Welcome back woody2... Shhh... don't tell anyone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, P.K. said: UK numbers please. We can't be sure because of the huge number of illegals that have entered the uk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Rog said: We can't be sure because of the huge number of illegals that have entered the uk. How do you know its a "huge" number if they didn't come through recognised channels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: How do you know its a "huge" number if they didn't come through recognised channels? The sewage metric. Ever heard of it? It's a quick and dirty but useful means of determining actual population Vs claimed population for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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