Ramseyboi Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Barlow said: Despite your name, I don't think you're from around these parts, boy. This is the Isle of Man. We don't do dope. Ah of course not. You can’t smell it all over the island at all hours of the day at all 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: There will be overwhelming support of medicinal cannabis and licensed growing and strong support for decriminalization. Not "will be", "is". I'll just repeat my comment from earlier in this very topic: [...]we've got evidence of that from the consultation on medical cannabis that was done as recently as 2019: We received 3,285 responses from Isle of Man residents and local organisations (99% from individuals). Only 0.8% of respondents were NOT in favour of the introduction of medicinal cannabis The majority of respondents that were in favour would like to see it offered as a quality assured product direct to the public for self-medication through accredited dispensaries (option D) or as a framework similar to the Netherlands (option C) 62% were in favour of restricting access to adults over the age of 18 95% would support the cultivation and manufacture of medicinal products in the Isle of Man subject to a suitable regulatory framework. Although the questions nominally only referred to medical cannabis, it was quite clear from the more detailed analysis of responses that the majority of respondents (55%) wanted the option that was equivalent to legalisation for all: Option D Offer quality assured medicinal cannabis products direct to the public for self-medication through accredited dispensaries. More interestingly not only was hardly anyone against legalisation, but only 2.5% went for the more Establishment option of Option A: Remaining fully in line with the UK. Now, as with any consultation, there's obviously a bias here towards the involved and against the indifferent. But the point is there don't seem to be that many opposed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 The inevitable conflating medicinal cannabis (good, good, good) and decriminalisation (bad, good, bad) will be the stumbling block. Let's see what Allinson does. He will have CoMin to contend with first. Is he prepared to take the risk of marginalising himself I wonder. He is still smarting from the somewhat bloody nose he received at the polls (compared to his ego pumping win of 2016). He will be cautious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Barlow said: The inevitable conflating medicinal cannabis (good, good, good) and decriminalisation (bad, good, bad) will be the stumbling block. Let's see what Allinson does. He will have CoMin to contend with first. Is he prepared to take the risk of marginalising himself I wonder. He is still smarting from the somewhat bloody nose he received at the polls (compared to his ego pumping win of 2016). He will be cautious. I really don’t get why you think he would be marginalising himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Sticking with decrim for a minute: There is a risk when any controversial law is introduced. I don't think Allinson's understanding of the Isle of Man is as clear as he thinks. There are many reasons why he lost so many votes at the general election and this has been discussed at length elsewhere. But there will always be the thought that a number of votes were lost due to his stance on abortion. Yes, I realise that may seem odd, but everyone has a vote in a general election. Is he going to take the further risk with a bit of weed? If he can bring his Thursday club mates on board then that is a perhaps a different matter but I can't see Isle of Man Government pushing for decriminalisation. He will have to step out of the circle and go for a Private Members Bill ie go it alone and persuade Tynwald to come with him. In any case, I don't think he particularly wants to be a sword carrier for this particular issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Barlow said: Sticking with decrim for a minute: There is a risk when any controversial law is introduced. I don't think Allinson's understanding of the Isle of Man is as clear as he thinks. There are many reasons why he lost so many votes at the general election and this has been discussed at length elsewhere. But there will always be the thought that a number of votes were lost due to his stance on abortion. Yes, I realise that may seem odd, but everyone has a vote in a general election. Is he going to take the further risk with a bit of weed? If he can bring his Thursday club mates on board then that is a perhaps a different matter but I can't see Isle of Man Government pushing for decriminalisation. He will have to step out of the circle and go for a Private Members Bill ie go it alone and persuade Tynwald to come with him. In any case, I don't think he particularly wants to be a sword carrier for this particular issue. You still haven’t explained why it is controversial. It really isn’t to most people. If we don’t just crack on we will get left behind and still be the stupid little island that fines people for having a tiny amount of weed. We are already archaic in that regard as even the UK just issue on the spot fixed penalty and/or a caution. Todays local rag in jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Malta becomes first European country to legalise cannabis for personal use. Slowly but probably surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 6 is a bit much for personal use really unless it was a one off crop to last a year or so, but it is hardly an industrial operation. Not clear from the report, was he just fined or does this result in a criminal record? https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/1250-fine-for-man-who-grew-cannabis-plants/ The govt continues its efforts to look like a bunch of backward hillbillies, whilst proposing to do the very same thing themselves, but of course they can tax it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 6 hours ago, The Phantom said: 6 is a bit much for personal use really unless it was a one off crop to last a year or so, but it is hardly an industrial operation. Not clear from the report, was he just fined or does this result in a criminal record? https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/1250-fine-for-man-who-grew-cannabis-plants/ The govt continues its efforts to look like a bunch of backward hillbillies, whilst proposing to do the very same thing themselves, but of course they can tax it. You can only be fined, put on probation, or imprisoned (suspended or otherwise ) after a conviction. So criminal record comes before the sentencing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Thailand has changed the law on drugs. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 New York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Meanwhile on the Isle of Man. I don't condone drug driving, but the delight the police take in the new drug wipes is sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, cissolt said: Meanwhile on the Isle of Man. I don't condone drug driving, but the delight the police take in the new drug wipes is sickening. It's a sign of not much better to do and budget justification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Max Power said: It's a sign of not much better to do and budget justification. it's also a sign of people not complying with the law. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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