TheTeapot Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: That's because that's the desired outcome. No one in government wants to take the controversial but obviously correct steps, its too much work for them. So the 'new' policy they reveal in April next year will be to maintain the status quo, and then in a few years after another election someone will commission a new report because nothing will have changed and the same obvious problems will exist and we'll do it all over again. One good thing the report does state is "Profit-maximising commercialised models should be avoided, as once implemented it is difficult to roll these back." The biggest issue places that have legalised cannabis are finding is that the illegal cannabis is cheaper to buy than legal cannabis. This means people are still buying from criminal gangs. But the Island has a massive advantage in controlling the import over those places, the Irish Sea. If you want any of it to happen you'll need to get on to your MHK's now, way in advance of any debate or potential future report. You can bet your bottom dollar the detractors will do just that and their voice will end up the loudest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: If you want any of it to happen you'll need to get on to your MHK's now, way in advance of any debate or potential future report. Sadly my MHKs are Jason and Tim. Not much point in talking to either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bees Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: Strange though. Gary Roberts retires. Within a few months we somehow manage to find the IOMs biggest ever drug haul. I doubt it will scratch the surface, I happened along a couple of old heroin addict friends of mine recently, they’re both a mess, it’s absolutely soul destroying, one of them is a lovely lad (the other is a scummy little horror but it takes all sorts 🤷♀️) had a great life but got himself caught up in heroin addiction, it happens and is so very very sad. Prohibition is not working, what can be done to save people? Guarantee there will not be a massive disruption in supply caused by this bust, the press go on like the police got el chappo- ya think? Highly unlikely. Good job though, some of that off the streets is better none. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Off the Street's, do you think Willy the pimp is hanging on the street corner doing his thang to passing dude's(dudesess's) you have been watching to many reruns of Starsky & Hutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bees Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 No, it was a turn of phrase, while it’s the police station it cannot be sold (or at least, that’s what should happen). I don’t think anyone believes that we have a Summerhouse type of operation going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Cueey Lewis And The News said: Strange though. Gary Roberts retires. Within a few months we somehow manage to find the IOMs biggest ever drug haul. biggest ?? perhaps the claimed most value but big refers to size and as a volume i doubt it's the largest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 6 hours ago, 2bees said: Guarantee there will not be a massive disruption in supply caused by this bust, the press go on like the police got el chappo- ya think? Highly unlikely. Not from the reports I have read they have just said it was a large seizure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 How can this be taken seriously when 42% of the people replying have only ever seen drugs on TV? Cassie's overdose on Corrie shouldn't be used as a frame of reference to determine drug policy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bees Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, thommo2010 said: Not from the reports I have read they have just said it was a large seizure It was massive, 750k’s worth of drugs is not to be sniffed at but there is/are always more. 2kg of heroin and 1.25kg of cocaine according to Manx Radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 And how many kilograms can be brought over in the back of a car or in the middle of (or even welded within) an artic container each day Step back and look at this. A kg is humongous in terms of a police find but is sweet Fanny Adams to what can be brought onto the Island so easily. All that the big boys want is a bigger and bigger market place, and they are getting that alright. Where is the much used maxim "if it saves just one life it will be worth it". Don't give in to the druggie bastards Prohibition all the way and then some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 hours ago, WTF said: biggest ?? perhaps the claimed most value but big refers to size and as a volume i doubt it's the largest. That’s what they claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, cissolt said: How can this be taken seriously when 42% of the people replying have only ever seen drugs on TV? Cassie's overdose on Corrie shouldn't be used as a frame of reference to determine drug policy. Because they are entitled to their opinion as it will still effect them. Most people I know have never used torrent sites but will happily subscribe to Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 hours ago, cissolt said: How can this be taken seriously when 42% of the people replying have only ever seen drugs on TV? Cassie's overdose on Corrie shouldn't be used as a frame of reference to determine drug policy. You've misunderstood the question. It was actually about someone's "Level of familiarity with people who have problems with drugs" not just drugs themselves. You could well have seen or taken or even taken drugs regularly and still say you didn't know anyone with a drug use problem. The graphic makes this clearer: It also shows that 59.5% of respondents did have a closer knowledge of those with drug problems and of those that didn't, the vast majority relied on documentaries rather than fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, 2bees said: 750k’s worth of drugs is not to be sniffed Har har har Edited October 25, 2023 by HeliX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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