woolley Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 37 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: You clearly know very little about trade....except perhaps for trade in La La Land. Read a couple of books on it. Forgotten more than you'll ever know. Strange how most of the countries in the world manage fine, but as the 5th largest global economy we're somehow too fookin' stupid. Stop listening to the narrative. Quota + 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Can only judge from what you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 12 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: So why should other people have to.pay for it? Have you heard of a little thing called "society" and a little thing called "human empathy"? "There but for the grace of...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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woolley Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Have you heard of a little thing called "society" and a little thing called "human empathy"? "There but for the grace of...." The trouble is though, Richard, there are always those who will take advantage and get the deserving causes a bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34074557 You would have to show causal effects. I'm not saying none of them would be connected but neither can you claim that all are. These measures did need to be taken on the whole. Having said that, I am personally aware of some perverse decisions that were made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 13 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: So why should other people have to.pay for it? Excuse me? Why should other people have to pay to fund poor elderly people to have fuel allowance? I'm not even going to dignify that stupid question with a response. Well, since that is technically a response already, I'll continue: because we all live in society and we all operate in it under a concept you're probably too special to know about called "Social Contract Theory". Look it up. We are supposed to care for the sick, the poor, the elderly, and the vulnerable. It's called morals and being a decent human being. Businesses also operate in society under this social contract. It is the reason why individuals, businesses and governments all have something which in law is called a "duty of care". I am embarrassed that I even need to explain this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, woolley said: The trouble is though, Richard, there are always those who will take advantage and get the deserving causes a bad name. Same could be said of tax dodgers and aggressive avoiders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 25 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Same could be said of tax dodgers and aggressive avoiders... Indeed. You won't find me defending them. Although it is somewhat galling that they will throw the book at the little man if he's on the fiddle while the global corporates take the mickey on a grand scale through tax havens. Roll on country by country reporting whereby it is mandatory to pay full taxes in the territory where you earn the revenue just as an indigenous business has to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 It's not going to happen though, if anything it's going to get worse as developing countries become tax havens themselves, with little regard for human lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I know Tarne. We should really form a MF committee to save the world and just get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 7 hours ago, woolley said: How feckin' old do you think I am? There will be bugger all left when I get there. Worse still for those younger. I had you down as about 70? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 17 hours ago, woolley said: It isn't a cost effective measure when paid to those who don't require it including millionaires. That is the kind of thing that really should be targeted only to those who need it. Actually I don't need it! My place is hot as hell in the winter and heating and hot water comes with the £15 a week service charge...I just pay my leccy meter...But it is handy just before Xmas to get £200! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 5 hours ago, woolley said: On the contrary. An independent nation can trade on its own terms rather than those dictated by the central bureaucracy. It's strange, isn't it, that we are told we need to be in the EU to facilitate trade, but if the EU didn't exist we could trade freely with all of the nations of Europe and also arrange our own trade with the rest of the world. So this bastion of trade is actually an impediment to trade. It is actually nothing to do with trade. It is all about the lunatic, utopian ideas of peacenik, liberal globalists allied with those fellow travellers who have grown fat feasting at the trough. This is why we are seeing such a rearguard action from them all. Oh look. I just reached my EU quota for the day. Enjoy the sunshine, PK. Actually, I found this article rather illuminating Suggest you read it... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/04/britain-leave-single-market-trade-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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