Mr Shoe Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: Usual responses from usual posters. I am amazed that people are actually trying to defend Nazis and the KKK... And POW! The standard response of the social justice warrior mind. When all else fails...suggest the opposition are Nazi sympathisers. Criticising antifa, BLM, etc, is NOT defending Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Chinahand said: It's likely to get worse before it gets better. At the moment identity politics is the dominant political narrative and intolerance of those you disagree with is growing. I wonder what political figure will be able to change this? I can't see one, can you? There won't be one. At least not to achieve anything that endures long in the passage of time. It's human nature and humans fight each other for ascendancy. Differences between them are among the flashpoints. The folly is to try to cure it rather than recognise it and work with and around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, Mr Shoe said: And POW! The standard response of the social justice warrior mind. When all else fails...suggest the opposition are Nazi sympathisers. Criticising antifa, BLM, etc, is NOT defending Nazis. But trying to move the focus away from the Nazis is. Like I said, ignoring a burning building is just as bad as pouring petrol on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It's messed up but Trump has it right, there's massive blame on both sides. Just look at the footage on youtube, there's massive violence on both sides. Antifa fools surrounding the confederate rally with clubs, right wing nutters dressed with riot shields emblazoned with symbols. Antifa and BLM wanted to provoke the fight, that's for sure. You really don't want to be associated with them either Richard. And even though they're denying it now, from the lack of police it really looks like they were told not to intervene. It's probably just incompetence, but there's that part of me that just thinks ... was it malice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Shoe Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just now, RIchard Britten said: But trying to move the focus away from the Nazis is. Like I said, ignoring a burning building is just as bad as pouring petrol on it. Loudly blaming one side (the Nazis) and choosing to overlook the other side's contribution (antifa etc) because it suits your narrative is....pouring petrol on it. But with the added benefit of virtue signalling. You're just adding to the polarisation. Large proportions of BOTH sides are evil fuckers who went there looking for a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Defending Nazis...yeah this thread delivered as expected. I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Richard who is defending Nazis? Saying other people were violent too does not equal support for the KKK. You really do have quite a chip on that shoulder, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Richard who is defending Nazis? Saying other people were violent too does not equal support for the KKK. You really do have quite a chip on that shoulder, you know. "All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing." Do you image a Nazi rally would have been met with "restraint" in the 1940s in Charlottesville? All I am hearing from the right wingers is "ignore the fact there were Nazis, look at the people who were upset that there are Nazis". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Shoe Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Defending Nazis...yeah this thread delivered as expected. I'm out. Take this attitude to the extreme....and this is where the violence in Charlottesville comes from. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: All I am hearing .............. You hear what you want to hear. As usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 American politics is utterly mired in race and religion. I see no escape from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Richard clearly showing that fascism has returned in the form of anti-fascism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shill Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 JIm Jefferies sums it up nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausage Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Come on now...reality check time. Charlottesville is a beautiful friendly and relatively safe university town. The Nazi/KKK/White supremacist idiots who drove across the country to be there hijacked the relocation of a statue to turn up, show off their guns, scream obscene racist abuse in an aggressive manner and meet with fellow like minded pond life so they can gee each other on. I suspect many people from Charlottesville, students of UVA together no doubt with some others who travelled there were rightly outraged with this display. If they turned up and told these morons to f*ck off and that they weren't welcome then that is completely understandable. How surprising that confronting armed idiots with swastika tattoos turned into some brawls etc. However by far the most serious incident was perpetrated by a one of the brainwashed followers of the far rights warped idealogy. Im still astounded that the USA has Trump as its president...and I feel for the people I know who live there (and despise him). He continues to stoke up hatred and division amongst people, sometimes with what he says...and sometimes with what he declines to say. I hope if there are any further demonstration planned by these Nazi loving scumbags...the police respond with the same kind of aggression and violence that they display....the American cops are usually not shy in dishing out a bit of swift retribution in certain circumstances... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 So the leftists were all offended, innocent locals then? Don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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