RIchard Britten Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, woolley said: You think the Victorians would have put up with this sort of shit? You're dreaming. Strawman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Oh to be back in the good ol days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, the stinking enigma said: Oh to be back in the good ol days Yes as seen through right wing tainted glasses...when there was no crime, and you could physically abuse children with impunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Ever heard of a period of time in British history called the Victorian era? It is blindingly obvious - not enough guards (to save money), guards paid as little as possible (to save money), not enough investment in rehabilitation (to save money), basic services (to save money)....etc, etc. Seal the windows (to stop the bastards). Some are not receptive to rehabilitation hence we have so much reoffending. What you and your friends cannot accept is that SOME people are simply bad bastards so there is nothing to rehabilitate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, woolley said: Seal the windows (to stop the bastards). Some are not receptive to rehabilitation hence we have so much reoffending. What you and your friends cannot accept is that SOME people are simply bad bastards so there is nothing to rehabilitate. Seal the windows? Shall we ban them from going outside as well? Maybe we should try solitary confinement for years if not decades? I imagine when they are finally released they would be perfectly ready to re-join society...smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, RIchard Britten said: Seal the windows? Shall we ban them from going outside as well? Maybe we should try solitary confinement for years if not decades? I imagine when they are finally released they would be perfectly ready to re-join society...smh Not perfectly reformed like they are now, eh? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11649668/Serial-rapist-let-out-of-prison-on-day-release-rapes-again.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, woolley said: Not perfectly reformed like they are now, eh? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11649668/Serial-rapist-let-out-of-prison-on-day-release-rapes-again.html And your point being? Yes, I understand that some people are "bad" but what about the hundreds/thousands who complete their sentence and never commit another crime? Like this guy: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/ex-inmate-in-gordon-ramsay-tv-series-lands-chef-job-at-top-restaurant-7978703.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/Portals/0/Documents/Bromley Briefings/Summer 2017 factfile.pdf Interesting reading on the reality of prisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 See nothing wrong with someone coming out and making a success of himself. Don't see the conflict there and every encouragement should be given. Serve your time, keep your nose clean, come out and be a law abiding success. Fantastic for him and society. However, it's people like that who are worst affected by the reign of terror created by the other sort who need slapping down hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, woolley said: See nothing wrong with someone coming out and making a success of himself. Don't see the conflict there and every encouragement should be given. Serve your time, keep your nose clean, come out and be a law abiding success. Fantastic for him and society. However, it's people like that who are worst affected by the reign of terror created by the other sort who need slapping down hard. Do you think "slapping down hard" would have stopped "your" rapist doing what he did when he left prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Whilst I quite enjoy some of your postings Richard, your unswerving loyalty to perpetrators of crimes rather than the victims does leave me wondering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottyLisa Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 26 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Do you think "slapping down hard" would have stopped "your" rapist doing what he did when he left prison? Are you getting Woolley mixed up with Dilligaf? I'm not sure Woolley has any rapey friends. he seems like a decent sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Neil Down said: Whilst I quite enjoy some of your postings Richard, your unswerving loyalty to perpetrators of crimes rather than the victims does leave me wondering... Twisting my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, PottyLisa said: Are you getting Woolley mixed up with Dilligaf? I'm not sure Woolley has any rapey friends. he seems like a decent sort. No, I am referring to the example of a rapist that he linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, PottyLisa said: Are you getting Woolley mixed up with Dilligaf? I'm not sure Woolley has any rapey friends. he seems like a decent sort. I have no rapist friends either, so grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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