the stinking enigma Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 the people have voted. good luck to them i say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 minute ago, the stinking enigma said: the people have voted. good luck to them i say. But which people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 the people of the catalan parliament. why? were you going to attempt to make me look stupid? absolutely not neccessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: the people of the catalan parliament. why? were you going to attempt to make me look stupid? absolutely not neccessary Excellent post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, the stinking enigma said: the people have voted. good luck to them i say. not yet....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, the stinking enigma said: the people of the catalan parliament. why? were you going to attempt to make me look stupid? absolutely not neccessary Love the way you can beat everyone up by one volley of unconditional surrender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 No, I actually wrote a post explaining it but I didn't post. The Catalan residents in their referendums didn't vote for it, because it wasn't an official referendum The Spanish people outside Catalonia had no say Should cousin Dave at Raymotors decide he's had enough and Raymotors is it's own country now? Obviously not because they went bust but the idea is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 all singing songs last night but no road rage...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 That's one crappy national anthem they've got in Catalonia. Almost makes God Save The Queen sound good. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 "EU warns, 'more cracks' in bloc as Spain dissolves Catalonia's parliament after it declares independence..." reads the headline in today's Daily Telegraph. Jean Claude Junker declaring, "[The EU] doesn't need any more cracks, more splits... we shouldn't insert ourselves into what is an internal debate for Spain, but I wouldn't want the EU to consist of 95 member states in the future." Well of course he wouldn't. He says this because of the 'threat' to the EU's power-base monopoly. And an indication that the EU will defend Spain's rule over its regions, regardless. Cultural identity and separatism are anathema to Clunker and his dogs. Catalonia's fight for independence is seen as a grave threat to the EU status quo and its grip on power and influence. No matter what 16% of Spain's population who contribute a fifth to its economy, feel they deserve. Catalonian's are not alone either, and their foray into the independence issue is feared for adding fuel to the cause of other separatist groups, of which there are many, throughout Europe. It is the biggest threat to the EU's perception of democracy and its role in Europe since Brexit. How Spain and the EU react now, to this 'threat', will decide the future of the EU in its present form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 was juncker sober at the time...... its always been the plan of the eu to have regions rather than national governments...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The thing that people gloss over is that Catalans can celebrate their own culture and so forth whilst still remaining part of Spain. So why the secession? My suspicion is a bunch of grubby little opportunists..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 did notice last night that booking.com had a advert on tv for trips to barcelona...... don't forget to take your own riot gear...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkle Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, quilp said: "EU warns, 'more cracks' in bloc as Spain dissolves Catalonia's parliament after it declares independence..." reads the headline in today's Daily Telegraph. Jean Claude Junker declaring, "[The EU] doesn't need any more cracks, more splits... we shouldn't insert ourselves into what is an internal debate for Spain, but I wouldn't want the EU to consist of 95 member states in the future." Well of course he wouldn't. He says this because of the 'threat' to the EU's power-base monopoly. And an indication that the EU will defend Spain's rule over its regions, regardless. Cultural identity and separatism are anathema to Clunker and his dogs. Catalonia's fight for independence is seen as a grave threat to the EU status quo and its grip on power and influence. No matter what 16% of Spain's population who contribute a fifth to its economy, feel they deserve. Catalonian's are not alone either, and their foray into the independence issue is feared for adding fuel to the cause of other separatist groups, of which there are many, throughout Europe. It is the biggest threat to the EU's perception of democracy and its role in Europe since Brexit. How Spain and the EU react now, to this 'threat', will decide the future of the EU in its present form. the EUSSR is goosed (sounds better than "FUCKED") and I get the feeling I may see the destruction of this monstrosity before I croak.i have watched over a 40 year period them taking over every aspect of European life and destroying peoples sovereign aspirations. NOW the people have had enough in some states and this will bring the house of cards tumbling,happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Interestingly this Spain fracas hasn't messed with the EUR/GBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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