Tibet Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Quote Kurdistan referendum results: 93% of Iraqi Kurds vote for independence, say reports. Referendum result overwhelmingly endorses Kurdish independence from Baghdad as central government mounts pressure to 'cancel' vote and its outcome Congratulations to the Kurdish people for a great step toward their national independence. I hope to see the Kurds living under Turkish oppression eventually unite with them. This really is good news and an amazing step forward for long-term peace and stability in the middle east. Let us lobby our respective governments to give full support to the Kurdish people to ensure that their autonomy and self-determination is protected under international law and with the backing of military support from both NATO and the Russian Federation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I need a little more time to whey this up before i give it my support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 This won't go well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Good luck to them. They definitely deserve to regain their independence and sovereignty after all the crap they've had to put up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Does Erdogan think that though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Or Assad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 No nation has ever achieved independence from a tyrannical foreign oppressor without resistance and attempts to destroy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 It’s great that both Tibet and Aristotle are lending their support. Will Dale, Well Manicured Man, LLAP and the rest of Sybil’s friends also be popping in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Anything to contribute on the topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I worry slightly that this is a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. Sadly there are many more actors at play than just Kurdish self determination. It is unlikely to end quickly or well but they desire their state and have played their cards well in the chaos which consists of Iraq and Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chinahand said: I worry slightly that this is a quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing. Between people of whom we know nothing? Sure, if you're clueless and haven't studied the history of the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 It's a rather famous quote about the path to wider war. Look at what the neocons ignorance of the Middle East got us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I'm not entirely sure it was ignorance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Chinahand said: It's a rather famous quote about the path to wider war. Look at what the neocons ignorance of the Middle East got us. You can call it ignorance, but others might suggest it has been deliberate. Setting up radical islamists as agents of chaos to destabalise the middle east was a strategy of Zbigniew Brzezinski. What is clear is that it only turned into a disaster after Bush left officer and Obama came along and screwed everything up (on purpose). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Tribal war. Ancient stuff. Enabled and empowered by vested-interest and the usual bloody dreams of supremacism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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