Mr. Sausages Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 If this guy had been black and only had one brake light working he wouldn't have got off so lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Some very good words from the Muslim leader in the area, denouncing this jerk. Apparently nobody even knows him from the nearby mosques, etc. Islamism is not orthodox Islam. This terrorist, even if he claimed to be a Muslim, is not a Muslim. ISIS are heretics, as I've said before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Various news reports say that this arsehole has been planning his attack for a year. He must not have been very bright, how does it take a year to work out that driving onto the pavement will work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, llap said: Some very good words from the Muslim leader in the area, denouncing this jerk. Apparently nobody even knows him from the nearby mosques, etc. Islamism is not orthodox Islam. This terrorist, even if he claimed to be a Muslim, is not a Muslim. ISIS are heretics, as I've said before. There is only one islam. There are schools of jurisprudence, but only one Qur'an and only one islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jasper said: There is only one islam. There are schools of jurisprudence, but only one Qur'an and only one islam. Nonsense. There is the obvious major schism between the Sunni and Shia. There are also Sufi and hundreds of localised sects. Islam isn't like McDonald's where it's the same everywhere. That's what ISIS and Saudi Wahabists would like us all to believe, but it isn't so. Saying there's only one Islam is like saying there's only one Christianity, and then trying to point to some recently invented idiotic sect like Living Hope as the only true form of Christianity. Saying it just doesn't make it so. History indicates otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Various news reports say that this arsehole has been planning his attack for a year. He must not have been very bright, how does it take a year to work out that driving onto the pavement will work? Inbreeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, llap said: Nonsense. There is the obvious major schism between the Sunni and Shia. There are also Sufi and hundreds of localised sects. Islam isn't like McDonald's where it's the same everywhere. That's what ISIS and Saudi Wahabists would like us all to believe, but it isn't so. Saying there's only one Islam is like saying there's only one Christianity, and then trying to point to some recently invented idiotic sect like Living Hope as the only true form of Christianity. Saying it just doesn't make it so. History indicates otherwise. You show a common misconception. There IS only one islam. The schools of jurisprudence are totally unlike Christan sects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Just now, Jasper said: You show a common misconception. There IS only one islam. The schools of jurisprudence are totally unlike Christan sects. Saying "there is only one Islam" is hardly different to saying "there is only on Christianity". I take your point about jurisprudence being a major factor but that only applies within the major sects, rather than between them. The same point about jurisprudence applies to the sects of Christianity, especially between historical Christianity (Catholics and Orthodox) versus the Protestants and other sects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, llap said: Saying "there is only one Islam" is hardly different to saying "there is only on Christianity". I take your point about jurisprudence being a major factor but that only applies within the major sects, rather than between them. The same point about jurisprudence applies to the sects of Christianity, especially between historical Christianity (Catholics and Orthodox) versus the Protestants and other sects. There are no sects in Islam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Sunni vs Shia are sects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Just because they both claim to be the true Islam and that the other is non-Islam, doesn't mean we should buy into their own internal propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, llap said: Sunni vs Shia are sects. No. There is nothing in Islam that corresponds to sects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, llap said: Just because they both claim to be the true Islam and that the other is non-Islam, doesn't mean we should buy into their own internal propaganda. Before commenting on a thing first understand the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 For crying out loud, is this another troll wind up attempt? I've read hundreds of books on Islamic history and the Islamic religion and I've attended many lectures at mosques. I understand Islam just fine. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Jasper said: There are no sects in Islam. 50+ differentiating sects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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