RIchard Britten Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 IS are attacking Syria in the Heights. IS accidently attack IDF in the Heights, apologise and go about their business. Israel has attacked Syrian National forces in the Heights. Israel wants the bit of the Heights that isn't theirs (that is of course ignoring the whole section they currently hold but isn't recognised by the international community). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Where can I see or read this apology from ISIS to the IDF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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quilp Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Israel wants the bit of the Heights that isn't theirs (that is of course ignoring the whole section they currently hold but isn't recognised by the international community). Have you got a believable link to back this up or is it just more antisemitism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, llap said: Where can I see or read this apology from ISIS to the IDF? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-israel-defence-force-apology-attack-unit-golan-heights-defense-minister-moshe-ya-alon-a7700616.html "Isis fighters ‘attacked Israel Defense Forces unit, then apologised' claims former commander" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, quilp said: Have you got a believable link to back this up or is it just more antisemitism? Sorry, care to point out where I mentioned Jews or the Jewish Faith? I am talking about the Israeli Governments illegal occupation of the Golan Heights. And what would you class as a believable link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: I am talking about the Israeli Governments illegal occupation of the Golan Heights. The Golan Heights were occupied by Israel during the 6 Days War. Syria had no reason to attack Israel (except that the regime in Syria was fundamentally opposed to Israel's existence). It seems perfectly reasonable for Israel to retain strategic control - as a buffer against Syria. Unless or until there is a total settlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, pongo said: The Golan Heights were occupied by Israel during the 6 Days War. Syria had no reason to attack Israel (except that the regime in Syria was fundamentally opposed to Israel's existence). It seems perfectly reasonable for Israel to retain strategic control - as a buffer against Syria. Unless or until there is a total settlement. Israel annexed the Heights in '81. The Israelis settled there are in illegal settlements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 @RIchard Britten Do you know anything about the Golan, historically? Jews were ousted by the Ottomans around 600AD, having existed there peacefully with Aramaic/Arab tribes for around 800 years... And pongo makes the salient point about security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Israel annexed the Heights in '81. The Israelis settled there are in illegal settlements. You must know that it is much more complicated than that. It's not exactly an annexation and it probably doesn't need to be set in stone. But Syria is a hostile neighbour. So of course Israel wants a buffer zone. Perhaps one day Syria will be a peaceful democracy. The same is true for much of the disputed territories. The Israeli - PLO peace process was making good progress and many of these issues would gradually have been settled. But for Hamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Israel annexed the Heights in '81. The Israelis settled there are in illegal settlements. I thought you were for open borders and immigration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 24 minutes ago, pongo said: It's not exactly an annexation It was recognised by the UN as such Quote it probably doesn't need to be set in stone It is an illegal annexation according to the UN. Quote Perhaps one day Syria will be a peaceful democracy. You mean when a "friendly" government has been planted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 24 minutes ago, llap said: I thought you were for open borders and immigration? Where have I said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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