Apple Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 The details in the case make for difficult reading I agree. The stats in the article show very much a broken, imperfect system of execution. Yet they still choose to go down that road. Stays of execution made even up to the last minute are surely in themselves a form of torture knowing that one phone call from one individual means life or death. It does beg the question of whether the US are fit and able to call out the human rights of other countries that still have barbaric methods of torture / execution when this is the best they themselves can come up with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorulf Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 6:24 AM, Apple said: The details in the case make for difficult reading I agree. The stats in the article show very much a broken, imperfect system of execution. Yet they still choose to go down that road. Stays of execution made even up to the last minute are surely in themselves a form of torture knowing that one phone call from one individual means life or death. It does beg the question of whether the US are fit and able to call out the human rights of other countries that still have barbaric methods of torture / execution when this is the best they themselves can come up with. The US seem to be able to pedal hypocrisy. At the start of the war in Ukraine I saw Antony Blinken say in a speech "how dare Russia use starvation as a weapon by withholding food from people"...what about all the sanctions that the US have on country's around the world. The USA has to be the worst country for humanity....feckin American dream= the rest of the worlds nightmare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Thorulf said: The USA has to be the worst country for humanity....feckin American dream= the rest of the worlds nightmare I’m not sure that’s true. I am not a fan of the death penalty ( seems a bit strange writing that) but there are other countries who use it with no appeals, and in a much more inhumane way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorulf Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said: I’m not sure that’s true. I am not a fan of the death penalty ( seems a bit strange writing that) but there are other countries who use it with no appeals, and in a much more inhumane way. I like the USA as a place and I have American friends but I am talking about the way it's run. The USA is supposed to be a top modern democratic country not one of these other countries you mention,compare the US with European countries instead. Death penalties, highest rate of incarnation, draconian abortion laws, no free health care, no maternity leave not to mention the strangle hold on people in places like Cuba, Venezuela, Iran.....I could go on. Have a look at the good country index. A measure of how good a country is for the world. 1,Sweeden 2,Denmark 3,Germany....14, UK E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De nada Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Utah A 42-year-old man shot seven members of his family before killing himself in the US state of Utah after his wife filed for divorce, police said. The family of eight were found dead inside a rural home in Enoch City on Wednesday night during a welfare check at the property. Police say the victims included the man's wife, his five children and his mother-in-law. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64172722 Edited January 6, 2023 by De nada Update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorulf Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 21 hours ago, De nada said: Utah A 42-year-old man shot seven members of his family before killing himself in the US state of Utah after his wife filed for divorce, police said. The family of eight were found dead inside a rural home in Enoch City on Wednesday night during a welfare check at the property. Police say the victims included the man's wife, his five children and his mother-in-law. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64172722 Very very sad. What make a man kill his loved ones, the mind can be a terrible thing when its not working well. Same sort of thing as as Christopher Foster from UK in 2009. Killed wife, daughter, dogs, horses then set the house on fire and then killed himself. Or a similar event by James Killey from Doarlish Ard near Foxdale in 1800's tried to kill his wife, killed a few of his kids and threw them in a well then jumped in himself. The silicon chip inside his head Gets switched to overload, And nobody's gonna go to school today Daddy's gonna make them stay at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De nada Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 Virginia https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64194407 A six-year-old boy has been detained by police after shooting a teacher in the US state of Virginia, officers say. The shooting happened shortly after 14:00 local time (19:00 GMT) at Richneck Elementary School in the city of Newport News, Chief Steve Drew said. It is unclear how the child obtained the gun, but Mr Drew said the incident was not "an accidental shooting". The teacher - who has not been named and is said to be in her 30s - was left with life-threatening injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, De nada said: Virginia https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64194407 A six-year-old boy has been detained by police after shooting a teacher in the US state of Virginia, officers say. The shooting happened shortly after 14:00 local time (19:00 GMT) at Richneck Elementary School in the city of Newport News, Chief Steve Drew said. It is unclear how the child obtained the gun, but Mr Drew said the incident was not "an accidental shooting". The teacher - who has not been named and is said to be in her 30s - was left with life-threatening injuries. Just heard that on the radio. Kid’s in police custody. Knowing the US he’ll probably get tried as an adult and get a capital sentence 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, wrighty said: Just heard that on the radio. Kid’s in police custody. Knowing the US he’ll probably get tried as an adult and get a capital sentence 🙄 The parents will get in some serious trouble as well - assuming it was their gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombay Bad Boy Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Quote "This is terrible, something like this should never occur," Dr Parker added. "We want to ensure nothing like this happens again." Complete mystery how to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 1:46 PM, Bombay Bad Boy said: Complete mystery how to do this. Not really but it will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De nada Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) L.A. (Monterey Park) Police say ten people were killed after a gunman opened fire at a business premises at about 22:20 local time on Saturday (06:20 GMT on Sunday). Thousands of people had earlier gathered in the city, which sits just east of Los Angeles, to celebrate the lunar new year. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-64365251 Edited January 22, 2023 by De nada Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De nada Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) On 1/22/2023 at 9:46 AM, De nada said: L.A. (Monterey Park) Police say ten people were killed after a gunman opened fire at a business premises at about 22:20 local time on Saturday (06:20 GMT on Sunday). Thousands of people had earlier gathered in the city, which sits just east of Los Angeles, to celebrate the lunar new year. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-64365251 California police have identified the gunman suspected of killing 10 people in a ballroom dance studio near Los Angeles as Huu Can Tran, 72, who was later found dead in a white van. He had a self-inflicted gunshot wound and was declared dead at the scene, LA County Sheriff Robert Luna said. Updated to 11 fatalities ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-64365251 Edited January 24, 2023 by De nada Updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtleish Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 So many massive shootings already this year, the school shooting season hasn't even started yet. 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-729418 https://m.jpost.com/international/article-729407 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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