Rog Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, ballaughbiker said: Dates? Years will do. Since Runnymede onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Bobbie Bobster said: I'm not buying it. Nobody could be that thick. Why thick? Look, I have my values, opinions, and political affiliations. I detest socialists and socialism in all its forms and all its values and ambitions. That's me. Like it or lump it that's how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Didn't think I'd get an answer but gave you the benefit of the doubt. Waste of time. Given that you have clarified that you detest socialists and socialism yet most UK human rights advances have been under socialist governments, one is forced to conclude you therefore don't really value human rights. That is quite remarkable when the fate of 6 million jews, not that long ago, is considered. I suspect you realised where I was going with the earlier questions, hence the double dodge, but we got there in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: Didn't think I'd get an answer but gave you the benefit of the doubt. Waste of time. Given that you have clarified that you detest socialists and socialism yet most UK human rights advances have been under socialist governments, one is forced to conclude you therefore don't really value human rights. I suspect you realised where I was going with the earlier questions, hence the double dodge, but we got there in the end. Got where? Really. I value human rights within society and that means that the rights of the majority should always outweigh the "rights" of minorities, especially foreigners. For example the right of the British public to be protected from the presence of illegal immigrants predating on the infrastructure and social provisions that we have built and pay for must come before the "rights" of these criminals, criminal for having not sought asylum in the first "safe" country that they encountered, and criminals for breaking into OUR home country which in signing short of burglary MUST be enforced. Likewise turning Nelson's Eye to so called "cultural variance" that is even illegal in OUR culture is unequivocally WRONG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 hours ago, ballaughbiker said: Link? I can only find something in the Indy about it. Without seeing why they ruled this way then commenting would be guesswork. but you claimed it was easy to remove them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 18 hours ago, Barrie Stevens said: There is no long list of companies because simply having an office in the EU is not the qualifying factor.. Is that what you mean? There is a lot on line you could refer to which is why I have given you some links...There is much going on... no, you claim uk based financial services won't be able to operate in the eu, the beeb was unable to find one that didn't have offices already in the remaining 27, so they will be able to continue regardless of a deal.... if you know different then please share..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 6 hours ago, mojomonkey said: How does leaving the EU change the UK's relationship with the ECHR? The UK is subject to the ECHR as a member of the Council of Europe not due to being a member of the EU, as far as I'm aware membership of the Council of Europe isn't changing. why do remoans keep going on about the eu human rights? clearly this isn't needed due to the echr....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, woody2 said: why do remoans keep going on about the eu human rights? clearly this isn't needed due to the echr....... Ask Rog, he's the one seemingly confused over the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Quote but you claimed it was easy to remove them..... Link as originally requested to see why they weren't removed ? Right to a family life or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, mojomonkey said: Ask Rog, he's the one seemingly confused over the matter. no backbone you remoans... #fantaboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: Link as originally requested to see why they weren't removed ? Right to a family life or what? "broke freedom of movement rules". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42354864 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, woody2 said: no backbone you remoans... #fantaboy Whatever, I've nicer things to do than keep you amused. Laters, have a nice weekend. #woodycowardycustard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Quote The Home Office said the EU's Free Movement Directive allowed member states to impose restrictions on people in certain situations, including where there were concerns about security, public health, or fraud. SO the judge concluded under UK not EU law then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Quote the rights of the majority should always outweigh the "rights" of minorities, especially foreigners. So some people have more rights than others then? Human rights can't operate like that. Care to give examples of minorities before moving on to the foreigners angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 33 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: SO the judge concluded under UK not EU law then? No, the immigration appeal tribunals took decisions that overruled the UK law. It's worth examining the credentials of the "judges" in these appeal tribunals. We want our borders back. We need to get out of the EU in order to get them and a very great more too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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