woody2 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 what are the gun controls in france? and why is it only richards mates that have access to these types of guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 9 hours ago, twinkle said: the bastards been fucking shot,fantastic news,i hope the bullet was well placed. between the eyes. Probably between the aisles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 7 hours ago, pongo said: Austin has recently been terrorised by a wave of Christian terrorism. It's the same kind of thing. I think you’ll find that because he’s white and Christian he isn’t a terrorist... he’s a “challenged young man”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Sad. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43525267 Armaud Beltrane dies of wounds sustained ending the siege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 17 hours ago, pongo said: Quilp is making a fair point about this not being funny. Not the day it happened.* Austin has recently been terrorised by a wave of Christian terrorism. It's the same kind of thing. But I'm okay with living next door to the Methodists. * I enjoyed Spike Milligan as Hitler and Basil Fawlty goose stepping. But it wouldn't have been funny if they had done it the same day one of the camps had been liberated. There needs to be a bit of distance. Christian terrorism? Not so, any more than the Westboro lunatics are Christian. Hate, violence and any form of terrorism is in no way Christian. There are too many groups who claim to be Christian or cherry pick from the KJV as an excuse for their actions. This is unlike the case with Islam where the Qur'an supported by Hadith specifically dictates the use of violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 20 hours ago, Rog said: The issue is the absolute evil where our civilised democracy is concerned in the teaching and dictates of Islam. Would that be the same civilised democracy that gave us Bush and Blair: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Freggyragh said: Would that be the same civilised democracy that gave us Bush and Blair: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did." It is the same civilised democracy that saw Bush and Blair kicked out of office when their dishonesty and idiocy that their pre-election lies hid from view and that had resulted in their election. More importantly, in fact of the real importance, is that our laws can be established and/or repealed as society evolves and is not set in concrete according to the dictates and ranting of a demonstrable liar and terrorist 1300 or so years ago. Our democracy results in laws being made or repealed according to social evolution unlike Islam in which if society needs to evolve it is not a case of islamic laws changing to match, instead society must be smashed back into submission. I wonder how many people know that the word "Islam" means to submit. Submit to what? The hate filled ranting and dictates of a nasty lying warmonger in a war torn part of the world that was in socioeconomic collapse at the time he invented the horrid thing that he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rog said: It is the same civilised democracy that saw Bush and Blair kicked out of office when their dishonesty and idiocy that their pre-election lies hid from view and that had resulted in their election. No. Mr Bush served two terms. The 22nd Amendment limits a Presidency to two terms. He wasn't "kicked out of office". Nor was Mr Blair "kicked out of office". He resigned at a time of his own choosing. Long after he had promised to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 John Bolton is a Lutheran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, pongo said: No. Mr Bush served two terms. The 22nd Amendment limits a Presidency to two terms. He wasn't "kicked out of office". Nor was Mr Blair "kicked out of office". He resigned at a time of his own choosing. Long after he had promised to go. It was a democratic decision to place a limit on the number of terms a US president could serve, a democratic decision could have ammended the Constitution. The existence of democracy allows that choice to be made. Blair is a prime example of abuse of democracy, but even that demonstrates that it is the flexibility of democratic process that allows occasional abuse. (Blair was without any doubt the most awful Prime Minister that the UK has EVER had bar none) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Freggyragh said: John Bolton is a Lutheran. And the problem with that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rog said: It was a democratic decision to place a limit on the number of terms a US president could serve, a democratic decision could have ammended (sic) the Constitution. The existence of democracy allows that choice to be made. The fact remains that Mr Bush was not "kicked out of office". Which is what you are mistakenly arguing. He left office after completing the maximum two terms. Nor was Mr Blair "kicked out". Even Nixon wasn't "kicked out". Today Bush seems like a great statesman compared with Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, pongo said: The fact remains that Mr Bush was not "kicked out of office". Which is what you are mistakenly arguing. He left office after completing the maximum two terms. Nor was Mr Blair "kicked out". Even Nixon wasn't "kicked out". Today Bush seems like a great statesman compared with Trump. I rather like Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Freggyragh said: John Bolton is a Lutheran. He's also chairman of the Gatestone Institute. His contributions and views are well documented in the archive. Pro-Israel, opposed to a two-state solution. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12080/john-bolton-national-security-advisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, quilp said: He's also chairman of the Gatestone Institute. His contributions and views are well documented in the archive. Pro-Israel, opposed to a two-state solution. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12080/john-bolton-national-security-advisor That's got SFA to do with his religious beliefs. Well maybe his claimed religious affiliation is to some extent at odds with what he's getting up to but not a great deal wrong with most Lutheran churches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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