pongo Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Rog said: I REALLY fail to see a problem with it. Wearing Israel like a badge doesn't give you a free pass IMO when it comes to trolling in support of fascists. And yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Whenever I see this thread title I think of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 hours ago, woolley said: If you stand tall in the world that is precisely how you bring up decent kids who have a chance of living their lives in peace. If you dream of a world where everyone loves each other and take your guard down, abdicating the responsibility to someone else, that is when you are in trouble. And incidentally, in so doing you bring up generations who have no pride in their country and come to despise it. We are well down that road and need to turn it around. Did you ever study history? Were you paying attention? Clearly not. Dear me. Another assumption that couldn't possibly be more wrong. Your obsession with blaming "liberals" for everything is clearly warping your common sense. Assuming you have some of course. But then "standing tall" is everything Brexiteers are about. That and blue passports.... History shapes tomorrow. "Si vis pacem, para bellum" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, P.K. said: Dear me. Another assumption that couldn't possibly be more wrong. Your obsession with blaming "liberals" for everything is clearly warping your common sense. Assuming you have some of course. But then "standing tall" is everything Brexiteers are about. That and blue passports.... History shapes tomorrow. "Si vis pacem, para bellum" Dear me. Do you have to start so many posts as though you are having a nervous breakdown? Your last two sentences are spot on. Pity about the tripe before them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 hours ago, quilp said: I just detest the sarcastic, sneering, down-the-nose snobbery and hard-cheesery rhetoric you and others have consistently employed to diss Brexit and those who voted for it. If it's not the alleged lack of intelligence or integrity it's accusations of people being too old to know better! Directing your ire at the dithering of an obviously totally unprepared government and Opposition would be better served. You know, the same government which, with breath-taking naivety, never once imagined the 'plebs' had the temerity to vote against the establishment. And while it dithers in the process, humming and harring over this model or that, the truth is the 'progressive left' are also lacking clarity on what they want from Brexit. You commented on the welfare of "folks" and families, alleging this group or that will be worse off for Brexit and a reduced quality of life. How do you know this? Are they better off now, under the current system? Remoaners, by being in Brexit denial, are (perhaps) unwittingly ceding ground to a vision of Brexit that will only worsen the inequalities that led to Brexit in the first place. Sorry, missed this amongst all the bs chaff. Will reply tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, P.K. said: Sorry, missed this amongst all the bs chaff. Will reply tomorrow. How will we sleep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, woolley said: Dear me. Do you have to start so many posts as though you are having a nervous breakdown? Your last two sentences are spot on. Pity about the tripe before them. So don't accuse me of not knowing my history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, P.K. said: So don't accuse me of not knowing my history! Don't let it go to your head. Two sentences haven't convinced me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, woolley said: Don't let it go to your head. Two sentences haven't convinced me. Like I care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, P.K. said: Like I care... .............enough to post on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Quote fact is it doesn't matter Fact is you don't want it to matter probably because it's inconvenient data that hardly bolsters the reductionist viewpoint. Not sure what relevance Clinton's vote has in all this btw....perhaps you could explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 hours ago, quilp said: I just detest the sarcastic, sneering, down-the-nose snobbery and hard-cheesery rhetoric you and others have consistently employed to diss Brexit and those who voted for it. If it's not the alleged lack of intelligence or integrity it's accusations of people being too old to know better! Directing your ire at the dithering of an obviously totally unprepared government and Opposition would be better served. You know, the same government which, with breath-taking naivety, never once imagined the 'plebs' had the temerity to vote against the establishment. And while it dithers in the process, humming and harring over this model or that, the truth is the 'progressive left' are also lacking clarity on what they want from Brexit. You commented on the welfare of "folks" and families, alleging this group or that will be worse off for Brexit and a reduced quality of life. How do you know this? Are they better off now, under the current system? Remoaners, by being in Brexit denial, are (perhaps) unwittingly ceding ground to a vision of Brexit that will only worsen the inequalities that led to Brexit in the first place. Very good post mate eloquently put . All the remoaners seem to have is a financial argument of which even that is unproven although I'll concede that the employers have got richer. Meanwhile Britain is awash with crime (I think 13 murders already in London this week?) university educated kids working in McDonalds , the streets full of homeless people and beggars and no way of taking steps to clean up the mess until we exit. Can't come quick enough for me. This is the Utopia that these clowns want to keep us tied to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 12 hours ago, pongo said: Wearing Israel like a badge doesn't give you a free pass IMO when it comes to trolling in support of fascists. And yes. Maybe you would care to explain that strange comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 9 hours ago, ballaughbiker said: Fact is you don't want it to matter probably because it's inconvenient data that hardly bolsters the reductionist viewpoint. Not sure what relevance Clinton's vote has in all this btw....perhaps you could explain. not inconvenient at all...... remoans complaining about the vote system after is just bitterness..... same as clintons supporters...... you wouldn't complain if you had won...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 9 hours ago, homarus said: Very good post mate eloquently put . All the remoaners seem to have is a financial argument of which even that is unproven although I'll concede that the employers have got richer. Meanwhile Britain is awash with crime (I think 13 murders already in London this week?) university educated kids working in McDonalds , the streets full of homeless people and beggars and no way of taking steps to clean up the mess until we exit. Can't come quick enough for me. This is the Utopia that these clowns want to keep us tied to ? can't keep on importing poverty from the eu and expecting to keep services........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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