RIchard Britten Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, Rog said: Under pressure the two eventually become the same, and the EU certainly has provided the pressure. Typical nationalist sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, P.K. said: Time will tell all. Personally I hope Brexit will be a massive success. Because I don't know of anyone who actually wants a lower standard of living. And I don't give a flying what colour my passport is.... I would be prepared to see a reduction in the standard of living in order to get the hell out of the EU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, RIchard Britten said: Typical nationalist sentiment. And the problem with that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rog said: Not a class thing, though there are long thousands of scum who have slimed their way into the UK, but a patriotic thing. It's about being proud of our achievements as a nation, about our refusal to let a bunch of foreigners dictate to us how we should live, what rules and laws we have to obey, and demand billions each year. bombast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rog said: And the problem with that is? The fact you can't tell the difference between national pride and nationalist pride is all the problem I can be arsed pointing out to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Quote I would be prepared to see a reduction in the standard of living in order to get the hell out of the EU Fine but what about the other 49 million? Edit: who didn't vote out. Y'know....nearly 3 times the numbers of 'out' voters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 27 minutes ago, Rog said: I would be prepared to see a reduction in the standard of living in order to get the hell out of the EU If you can afford it, lucky you. An awful lot can't though Rog. What about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: Fine but what about the other 49 million? Edit: who didn't vote out. Y'know....nearly 3 times the numbers of 'out' voters Well presumably the ones who didn't vote don't care either way, so what about them? It's about how we see ourselves as a country. Are we confident to stand tall in the world or do we need to be a district of something "better"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, P.K. said: If you can afford it, lucky you. An awful lot can't though Rog. What about them? I am guessing the response will be "fuck 'em". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, woolley said: Well presumably the ones who didn't vote don't care either way, so what about them? Sweeping statement is sweeping. Maybe people didn't vote because they didn't feel confident in the information being provided (by either side). Maybe people didn't vote because the binary options presented didn't meet their "requirements". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, woolley said: Well presumably the ones who didn't vote don't care either way, so what about them? It's about how we see ourselves as a country. Are we confident to stand tall in the world or do we need to be a district of something "better"? Jeeeeze. "stand tall in the world" - wtf? Folks want a fair world where they can live out their lives and bring up decent kids who have have a chance of living out their lives in peace and security of four square and a roof over their heads. Only the "Britain First" wankers have the imaginary "stand tall" ethos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, RIchard Britten said: Do you know the difference between national pride and nationalist pride? What's the difference RIchard, I'd appreciate knowing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, P.K. said: Jeeeeze. "stand tall in the world" - wtf? Folks want a fair world where they can live out their lives and bring up decent kids who have have a chance of living out their lives in peace and security of four square and a roof over their heads. Only the "Britain First" wankers have the imaginary "stand tall" ethos. Vacuous blather... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, quilp said: Vacuous blather... As previously. Words are cheap. Especially vacuous soundbites... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 57 minutes ago, P.K. said: Jeeeeze. "stand tall in the world" - wtf? Folks want a fair world where they can live out their lives and bring up decent kids who have have a chance of living out their lives in peace and security of four square and a roof over their heads. Only the "Britain First" wankers have the imaginary "stand tall" ethos. If you stand tall in the world that is precisely how you bring up decent kids who have a chance of living their lives in peace. If you dream of a world where everyone loves each other and take your guard down, abdicating the responsibility to someone else, that is when you are in trouble. And incidentally, in so doing you bring up generations who have no pride in their country and come to despise it. We are well down that road and need to turn it around. Did you ever study history? Were you paying attention? Clearly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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