Winnie Mandela...

[Lxxx]

43 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said:

Is that another back handed compliment?

Well spotted brains.

[Lxxx]

32 minutes ago, PottyLisa said:

Do you know what a back handed compliment is Lxxx?

Actually, come to think of it, do you realise what decency actually is?

I'm in no mood to get into a slanging match with the likes of your ilk so the last word belongs to you.

I think my response indicates I do, to people sharp enough to get it.

[woody2]

now the sa population is less than the uk and the snowflakes say its safe (even with a murder rate 30 times that of the  uk) they should start sending a few million of them back to sa.......

[Gladys]

Without getting into the black vs white argument, Winnie was a proponent of necklacing.  Wasn't  that a punishment meted out to black 'traitors' involving putting a tyre round the neck, filled with petrol and set alight? Sounds like terrorism to me.

[Rog]

26 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Without getting into the black vs white argument, Winnie was a proponent of necklacing.  Wasn't  that a punishment meted out to black 'traitors' involving putting a tyre round the neck, filled with petrol and set alight? Sounds like terrorism to me.

Sounds inhuman.

[Gladys]

Indeed.  But that is what terrorists do - shock and fear. The oft used phrase "one man's freedom fighter is another's terrorist" is twaddle. 

[Declan]

Doesn’t the tag “terrorist” rather dignify what is essentially gangsterism?

Terrorism is about trying to instill terror in your opponents and particularly in the general population of your opponents. It’s a step on from being a freedom fighter because it doesn’t restrict itself to the machinery of an oppressive state. Whilst wrong, it’s still individuals taking up arms against a state for a cause.

However, necklacing was the powerful exercising control over their community through fear. It’s really little different to the mob running a protection racket. 

I think @Chinahand‘s earlier point about her being dehumanised by the struggle against apartheid and becoming murderous is relevant. Sometimes people with a cause, even an honourable cause, get caught up into believing anything they do is good for the cause and ultimately honourable, so become basically criminals. 

 

[Gladys]

You are so right about gangsterism.  Northern Ireland was exactly that - each side had its protection rackets far removed from 'the struggle'.  It became a money earning struggle.  No doubt, there were many who held the idealism, but many more who exploited the situation for their own enrichment.  How better to keep it going then a few bombs or knee-capping?

[Neil Down]

59 minutes ago, Gladys said:

You are so right about gangsterism.  Northern Ireland was exactly that - each side had its protection rackets far removed from 'the struggle'.  It became a money earning struggle.  No doubt, there were many who held the idealism, but many more who exploited the situation for their own enrichment.  How better to keep it going then a few bombs or knee-capping?

There wasn’t that many into idealism. More money laundering/drug dealing...

[twinkle]

I would think these scum will have plenty of the "real" money,idiots if they haven't.

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