quilp Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 On 30/04/2018 at 1:55 PM, P.K. said: I'm trying to avoid any personal abuse thanks all the same. This, after you casting aspersions about "simpletons" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, quilp said: This, after you casting aspersions about "simpletons" lol. I'm surprised that you are amused by so little. But happy for you of course. Did I direct that comment at a particular poster? Oh no, I didn't. Just spur of the moment what I can remember being directed at me for today: snowflake (naturally} thicko (for a typo) libdum (but of course} I'm sure you know the rest only too well.... Incidentally, who/what do you mean by "Better People" below? 5 hours ago, quilp said: Oh dear, here you are again trying to pass yourself off as one of the 'Better People.' Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Self-righteous, smug and self-regarding individuals who instinctively see themselves as something they're not. Champagne socialists, preening liberals full of virtuous outpouring. People who see themselves as better and more sensible than those oiks beneath them. You know the type. Or do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm not sure you can be a liberal AND a socialist. But your description pretty much fits my better half's brother in law. Whom I despise and so does she. But equally he is a VERY big scorer on The Hare Scale. Especially "self-regarding individuals who instinctively see themselves as something they're not" is a classic and labelled "Grandiose Self-Worth" which I think is a wonderful tag line. Got to take issue with "preening liberals full of virtuous outpouring" because I'm a liberal and preening and virtuous outpouring is definitely not my scene. As my wardrobe and anyone who knows me can attest to. It's certainly not a liberal trait either. Although you could swap "liberal" with "tory", "socialist" , "monarchist", "republican" or whatever and be spot on in certain cases just like everywhere else. Although the classic has to be "Degsy" Hatton who tried to create The People's Republic of Liverpool and was a male model in his spare time. Dear me, what a shambles he created around him. " People who see themselves as better and more sensible than those oiks beneath them" ahhh yes, the Jacob Rees-Moggs of this world from a class "born to rule" and all the rest of the privileged BS. Hopefully they're dying out. But surely they don't use the expression "oiks" any more? Not even in Eton you would hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, P.K. said: I'm a liberal and preening and virtuous outpouring is definitely not my scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 As I posted. You could swap "liberal" for just about any other shade of politics and find examples galore. Which makes the description a bit meaningless really. ETA although how Mr Quilp can think they're somehow "better people" is completely beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I don't think they're better people! Are you having a laugh now or did you miss my point? Generally I find most of the people I've described wouldn't recognise these traits in themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, quilp said: I don't think they're better people! Are you having a laugh now or did you miss my point? Generally I find most of the people I've described wouldn't recognise these traits in themselves. That depends entirely on the person as you know very well. You keep coming back to this fixation you seem to have that somehow the Remain camp look down on those who voted Leave. I for one am fully aware that neither side has a monopoly on either cleverness or stupidity. Despite all those idiots who phone James O'Brien at LBC and make themselves sound really really stupid. You keep banging on and on about those who voted Remain should "Get over it" and so forth. Well guess what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, P.K. said: You keep coming back to this fixation you seem to have that somehow the Remain camp look down on those who voted Leave. Didn't they? Do I have to repeat your favourite expression? The one that included, amongst other descriptive nouns like, "thick as pigshit." In your case you were quick to adopt the derogatory feel of the Private Eye-esque narrative and the expressions used in that rag about how the little people knew not what they were voting for and if only they'd listen/known better, etc., etc. And other vain attempts to portray them as racists, greasy islamophobes, xenophobes. I could quite easily search for your more choice remarks but I really can't be arsed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 hours ago, P.K. said: Where is your PROOF that because they were ALL members of the PCS they DELIBERATELY SET OUT TO DECEIVE. Come on, put up or shut up! they set out to deceive rudd, cooper had a copy of the memo....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, quilp said: Self-righteous, smug and self-regarding individuals who instinctively see themselves as something they're not. Champagne socialists, preening liberals full of virtuous outpouring. People who see themselves as better and more sensible than those oiks beneath them. You know the type. Champagne socialism sounds fun. You should get that chip looked at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 You're another one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, quilp said: You're another one... OK. So what I get from you is that your politics is defined by what you don't like. And that you feel that you are unfairly looked down on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Rog said: There bloody well SHOULD be targets and those targets regularly exceeded. Particularly for uncritical supporters of a state that celebrates the murder of British service personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, pongo said: OK. So what I get from you is that your politics is defined by what you don't like. And that you feel that you are unfairly looked down on. Nah. I don't take it personally. Isn't everyone's politics partly defined by what they don't like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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