RIchard Britten Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, woolley said: And you think that liberal is good. I do. But then the way you use the word and what it actual means are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Which section? ETA: Highlights his own error...lol Just have someone read the bloody thing to you and/or (probably) explain it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Rog said: By far not indigenous British and mostly not even of British descent. 1 hour ago, P.K. said: Facts please. I know you read the Guardian, PK, but if you have to ask for facts on that or are questioning its veracity, you are willfully blind to the reality happening all around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: I do. But then the way you use the word and what it actual means are two different things. What does "liberal" mean to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: I do. But then the way you use the word and what it actual means are two different things. I agree with that. But I am using it as a descriptor for all of the interests that have hijacked it for malign purposes. I see you ignored the substance of my post directly addressing your dismissive and erroneous retort to Rog's point. Par for the course for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rog said: Just have someone read the bloody thing to you and/or (probably) explain it to you. So you have no clue what you are talking about. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, woolley said: I know you read the Guardian, PK, but if you have to ask for facts on that or are questioning its veracity, you are willfully blind to the reality happening all around you. Don't be silly. I long ago learned not to bother with so-called anecdotal "evidence" because it's completely worthless. Facts I beieve. Bullshit I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, woolley said: I know you read the Guardian, PK, but if you have to ask for facts on that or are questioning its veracity, you are willfully blind to the reality happening all around you. Yeah, why ask for facts and evidence when you can rely on the Woolster and Rog the Racist for anecdotal stories... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, woolley said: I see you ignored the substance of my post directly addressing your dismissive and erroneous retort to Rog's point. Par for the course for you. The "substance" of your post was as sneery as the rest of your posts, using an extremist as an example of the whole. Par for the course for you as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, P.K. said: Don't be silly. I long ago learned not to bother with so-called anecdotal "evidence" because it's completely worthless. Facts I beieve. Bullshit I don't. 2 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Yeah, why ask for facts and evidence when you can rely on the Woolster and Rog the Racist for anecdotal stories... So you don't have eyes to see for yourselves? You don't know people or have family who are directly affected by the criminal activities that go on in the ghetto parts of our cities? You haven't heard of people being caught up in the middle of a suburban pitched battle between youths of different races? You don't know people touched by drugs and knife crime? You know nobody who has been mugged? You know nobody who has been pick-pocketed. You know nobody who has been the subject of a staged accident for insurance fraud. You don't see standards of respect and behaviour plummeting? Up until the last twenty years or so, I didn't either. Now I know people who have been at the sharp end of all of these and often not just the once. There was absolutely going to be a backlash. You call it populism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, woolley said: So you don't have eyes to see for yourselves? Yes thanks. But then I do have the same hate filled lenses you seem to insist on wearing. Quote You don't know people or have family who are directly affected by the criminal activities that go on in the ghetto parts of our cities? You haven't heard of people being caught up in the middle of a suburban pitched battle between youths of different races? You don't know people touched by drugs and knife crime? You know nobody who has been mugged? You know nobody who has been pick-pocketed. You know nobody who has been the subject of a staged accident for insurance fraud. You don't see standards of respect and behaviour plummeting? Up until the last twenty years or so, I didn't either. Now I know people who have been at the sharp end of all of these and often not just the once. There was absolutely going to be a backlash. You call it populism. Well...as someone who actually lives in the UK and has lived in the North and South...no, none of the people I know have been affected by those crimes (although my grandparents did get stiffed on a furniture purchase by a shifty company (ran by a white guy) and my parents had their shed broken into about 30 years ago (turned out was some local kids...white as it happens). I'm sure I could make up some anecdotal "friends and family" like you probably have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 20 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: So you have no clue what you are talking about. Case closed. Just READ the bloody thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: The "substance" of your post was as sneery as the rest of your posts, using an extremist as an example of the whole. Par for the course for you as well. Hmmmm. Sneery maybe, but correct. Definitely par for the course for me. I do my best but it is difficult not to sneer at the bilge you come out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Rog said: Just READ the bloody thing! You want me to read an entire document to find a specific section to which you are referring to? Case double closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, woolley said: Hmmmm. Sneery maybe, but correct. Definitely par for the course for me. I do my best but it is difficult not to sneer at the bilge you come out with. Using the actions of the few as evidence against the masses... Definitely par the course for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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