Ham_N_Eggs Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, offshoremanxman said: It seems that even his most ardent supporters have to point out the obvious to him. Voted for a Tory; and is surprised when the Tory acts like a Tory. Sigh. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Callister's implicit criticism of the CM (in the blog posted JW posted) for including people who do not necessary agree with him on everything is especially telling. In reality it's a potential positive that the Comin does not have a single (or toady) perspective. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Roxanne said: I truly can’t see why he was passed over for one of the top roles. Ask don't get. Don't ask, don't want. And never talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, pongo said: Callister's implicit criticism of the CM (in the blog posted JW posted) for including people who do not necessary agree with him on everything is especially telling. In reality it's a potential positive that the Comin does not have a single (or toady) perspective. It's not even about agreement - Callister seems to think that the CM should only appoint those who voted for him - which is petty at best and a pretty open invitation to corruption at worst - rather than those who are best suited to hold the positions. But even Quayle appointed Thomas, Cannan and Beecroft from those who didn't vote for him. I suspect he's hurt because only he and Bettison supported Cannan in 2016 and 2021, but loyalty isn't the only qualification for these things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: It's not even about agreement - Callister seems to think that the CM should only appoint those who voted for him - which is petty at best and a pretty open invitation to corruption at worst - rather than those who are best suited to hold the positions. But even Quayle appointed Thomas, Cannan and Beecroft from those who didn't vote for him. I suspect he's hurt because only he and Bettison supported Cannan in 2016 and 2021, but loyalty isn't the only qualification for these things. I think it could be a positive that loyalty alone doesnt make a person a good fit for a post. Surely ability should be to the fore. He hasnt done himself any favours with his outbursts . Quite sad really that a person whose was a potential Cabinet appointment should kick off because he didn't make the cut. We have all been situations like that in the work place but what you should do is knuckle down and prove you have the qualities to be successful. He has done everything wrong in my opinion. This is one time when I sincerly hope 'lessons are learned' . Edited October 17, 2021 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 £500 I had down on no childish outbursts in the first week. FFS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Layman Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, slinkydevil said: £500 I had down on no childish outbursts in the first week. FFS. With your current form, I’d give the lottery a miss for a while 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 What was 'unforgiveable' Rob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 The problem that Rob Callister has is entirely one of his own making. He entered politics here with the ambition of achieving something for himself, primarily. It has always been about him, first and foremost. He wants to be a Somebody and his whole career to date has been about promoting himself. The better strategy wouid have been to prove that he has political vision and real ability beyond his self- promoting and posturing. The fact that he turned down the opportunity of the IOM Post role demonstrates that he has yet to learn that actions prove more than mere words, in politics and everywhere else. In his effort to be Somebody, he will remain a comparative Nobody. Mr Cannan has started off showing some decent judgement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Layman Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: What was 'unforgiveable' Rob? That voters in Onchan were hoodwinked? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 12 hours ago, Roxanne said: This is not the behaviour expected of a senior statesperson. Er, reality check. Jumped up compliance officer in small backwater. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Peter Layman said: With your current form, I’d give the lottery a miss for a while You're right. I'm writing to Rob to see if he can reimburse me out of expenses. Just put it down as a couple of cheap suits, a tie and some stamps. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De nada Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Peter Layman said: That voters in Onchan were hoodwinked? Not really, the candidates were all so bad that he won by default. A lot of voters just turn up and see a name they have seen bandied about a lot and because the rest were such non-entities the X went his way. People still think that they have to vote even though the options were so poor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Layman Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, De nada said: Not really, the candidates were all so bad that he won by default. A lot of voters just turn up and see a name they have seen bandied about a lot and because the rest were such non-entities the X went his way. People still think that they have to vote even though the options were so poor. Not really, by voting, you are at least preventing the complete buffoons from getting in. That being said, Ray Harmful and Dim Baker still managed to get in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Peter Layman said: Not really, by voting, you are at least preventing the complete buffoons from getting in. That being said, Ray Harmful and Dim Baker still managed to get in ? joebean hurries to recheck the election results… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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