WTF Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Numbnuts said: The real ones or the make believe ones ?? there are real ones ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx Bean Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 11 hours ago, emesde said: "Forty-seven cruise ships are due to visit the island this year," I've seen a couple, is this a realistic figure? I do hope so, as apparently Longworth got an order in for 23 new double decker buses to transport them before he retired (or has he). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Listening to Rob this morning, it sounds like the 2023 TT schedule is sorted as far as he’s concerned, regardless of any views given in the upcoming public consultation. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/proposed-tt-schedule-changes-made-with-motorcycling-events-in-mind/?fbclid=IwAR2oJ6vcEf3DuZHKOUtcJmlR9Xg0XWKhG7egr3Zo1njNK8Lg1KNQM5KTZ_M&fs=e&s=cl 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, skins said: Listening to Rob this morning, it sounds like the 2023 TT schedule is sorted as far as he’s concerned, regardless of any views given in the upcoming public consultation. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/proposed-tt-schedule-changes-made-with-motorcycling-events-in-mind/?fbclid=IwAR2oJ6vcEf3DuZHKOUtcJmlR9Xg0XWKhG7egr3Zo1njNK8Lg1KNQM5KTZ_M&fs=e&s=cl Doesn't sound like that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, Passing Time said: Doesn't sound like that at all. Sure it doesn't, Rob. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 It’s total lip service, and as I have said previously, the DfE couldn’t care for the other stakeholders, local authorities, and businesses who’s livelihood depends or underpins their survival. Rob Callister summed it up it’s about maximising income - for the departments aims. It seems that any income devolved from the TT should be at the expense of other areas, like towns and villages, whilst the activities up at the grandstand and other locations (fanzones) create additional revenue. I wonder if Rob Callister would change his opinions if Onchan, were affected due to road closures, and a loss of business to the town? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, 2112 said: It’s total lip service, and as I have said previously, the DfE couldn’t care for the other stakeholders, local authorities, and businesses who’s livelihood depends or underpins their survival. Rob Callister summed it up it’s about maximising income - for the departments aims. It seems that any income devolved from the TT should be at the expense of other areas, like towns and villages, whilst the activities up at the grandstand and other locations (fanzones) create additional revenue. I wonder if Rob Callister would change his opinions if Onchan, were affected due to road closures, and a loss of business to the town? It would be interesting to know how the out of town businesses fared during TT week. If RC wants to improve the TT then he has to ensure that all parts of the Island get a slice of the cake 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Passing Time said: It would be interesting to know how the out of town businesses fared during TT week. If RC wants to improve the TT then he has to ensure that all parts of the Island get a slice of the cake Dont know about out of town but staff in Capones and Tower House said they weren't as busy as last TT 2019. I know the merchandising shops although busy struggled with stock shortages due to the uncertainty of it taking place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: It would be interesting to know how the out of town businesses fared during TT week. If RC wants to improve the TT then he has to ensure that all parts of the Island get a slice of the cake Peel Day whilst it has been affected in previous years, when racing has been held over to Sunday due to red flagged incidents or weather, it does have a detriment on attendance and income. Other parts of the island need to be encouraged to have a slice of the action, but when other events such as the post TT racing, which will be likely to be affected, it doesn’t bode well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 While the two years of Covid and not having a TT fortnight did result in a drastic reduction in turnover and profit for many businesses and sadly some did not survive those years, the vast majority did survive, a struggle no doubt for many but they are still here. If the TT stopped this year, that same majority would also survive. As I say elsewhere, the TT is a 'Bonus' rather than a survival mechanism. If we want to be trully hard, a business that can not survive without the TT is not a viable business but a jump on the bandwagon business that relies solely on one event. It does not add to our economy. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, Kopek said: While the two years of Covid and not having a TT fortnight did result in a drastic reduction in turnover and profit for many businesses and sadly some did not survive those years, the vast majority did survive, a struggle no doubt for many but they are still here. most survived because of government handouts , if government had given out nothing they'd be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Not all employers took advantage of the payouts, some will have survived on lower turnover and some would have let their employees go, so they would have got unemployment benefit anyway. Without the TT income, more will adjust their business model to account for that loss??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, WTF said: most survived because of government handouts , if government had given out nothing they'd be gone. That’s sort of true but sort of untrue as well. You are right many would have literally folded without being bailed out. It doesn’t matter how good a business person you are or how robust your businesses model is as a business but business plans don’t factor in the government telling you to stop trading and making all your staff stay at home. Equally the bailouts have had other impacts. For instance the prom works had already pretty much killed almost every business on the prom. The bailouts were actually a blessing as they got compensated for Covid not for a shit project that had basically cleared the prom of any potential customers for nearly 3 years. Also in addition to Covid payments (which were often minimal) many businesses have had to re-finance or take on more debt, and some business owners have even had to take on more personal mortgage debt to stay afloat and pay bills. Those positions are now unraveling very quickly because of escalating costs and the need to service higher levels of debt. If our government (or any other) thinks it’s bought it’s way out of problems through generous Covid bailouts then they’re sorely deluded. The shit is now really starting to hit the fan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buncha wankas Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 10:38 AM, skins said: Listening to Rob this morning, it sounds like the 2023 TT schedule is sorted as far as he’s concerned, regardless of any views given in the upcoming public consultation. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/proposed-tt-schedule-changes-made-with-motorcycling-events-in-mind/?fbclid=IwAR2oJ6vcEf3DuZHKOUtcJmlR9Xg0XWKhG7egr3Zo1njNK8Lg1KNQM5KTZ_M&fs=e&s=cl Yep, sounds like they are locked in. He sounds like he is reading from script that his puppeteer Phillips wrote for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavis the fairy Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, buncha wankas said: Yep, sounds like they are locked in. He sounds like he is reading from script that his puppeteer Phillips wrote for him He’d enjoy that. Rob likes a good old fisting on the quiet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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