Mr Helmut Fromage Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I chose not to make a knee jerk reaction to the Coronation of the Peoples Prince - after careful consideration I would like to put into the public domain- He is fucking useless below average intelligence and nailed on to flounce at the first sign of trouble- shocking. He is essentially the Isle of Man’s Ali Dia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Dia Apologies to non football fans but the comparison is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Putting Rob Callister in a position such as Minister for DHSC would be the clearest indication yet of the desperate state of Manx politics and its inability to attract quality candidates to stand for Keys. The island really needs to get the engagement of the public and the interest of people with some depth of expertise and political intelligence. As long as it continues as a club for the egocentric and desperate for attention, rather than a properly organised democratic institution which can both introduce and sensibly debate serious national policy issues, which impact and engage the electorate, we will be stuck with these second-raters and know-nothings. It is clear that DHSC has a range of issues that need addressing and that resolute and intelligent political leadership will be required to push reform and improvement through. How many of us actually believe that any of our senior politicians have the ability to offer that leadership, let alone Mr Callister? 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, joebean said: Putting Rob Callister in a position such as Minister for DHSC would be the clearest indication yet of the desperate state of Manx politics and its inability to attract quality candidates to stand for Keys. The island really needs to get the engagement of the public and the interest of people with some depth of expertise and political intelligence. As long as it continues as a club for the egocentric and desperate for attention, rather than a properly organised democratic institution which can both introduce and sensibly debate serious national policy issues, which impact and engage the electorate, we will be stuck with these second-raters and know-nothings. I sort of agree this is almost the worst government on record (but we always say that). It started off with so much hope and already the CS has beaten them into submission. The Chief Secretary has even been packed off and yet the faceless incompetents are still clearly running the show not the politicians. Who has even heard from Alf Cannan for a month or so - Queens mourning period or not? They can’t even get interest out of people to attend a conference on the future of the IOM. Because nobody really gives a shit anymore and nobody had any confidence that anyone in government cares about anything but their career goals and gold plated pensions. The number of professional’s I’ve spoken to in the last month who literally couldn’t give a shit what happens next is really high as most people have had enough of dealing with dimwits. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, joebean said: Putting Rob Callister in a position such as Minister for DHSC would be the clearest indication yet of the desperate state of Manx politics and its inability to attract quality candidates to stand for Keys. The island really needs to get the engagement of the public and the interest of people with some depth of expertise and political intelligence. As long as it continues as a club for the egocentric and desperate for attention, rather than a properly organised democratic institution which can both introduce and sensibly debate serious national policy issues, which impact and engage the electorate, we will be stuck with these second-raters and know-nothings. It is clear that DHSC has a range of issues that need addressing and that resolute and intelligent political leadership will be required to push reform and improvement through. How many of us actually believe that any of our senior politicians have the ability to offer that leadership, let alone Mr Callister? Club for the egocentric and desperate for attention? You do know Josem and HM Sole didn't get elected right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 But that is democracy, we get what we deserve. There is only one entry exam and that is that you have secured more votes (appallingly low) than the others. I am not a political animal, but I really think a party political system is the way to go. You have to pass the entry exam to stand as a candidate and, if elected, have to vote in line with their mandate. At the moment we have a group of disparate individuals promising nirvana and, once elected, have no means to deliver it because their nirvana differs from everyone else's. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Gladys said: But that is democracy, we get what we deserve. There is only one entry exam and that is that you have secured more votes (appallingly low) than the others. I am not a political animal, but I really think a party political system is the way to go. You have to pass the entry exam to stand as a candidate and, if elected, have to vote in line with their mandate. At the moment we have a group of disparate individuals promising nirvana and, once elected, have no means to deliver it because their nirvana differs from everyone else's. On another thread certain posters want a voted in leadership instead of the Royal Family… see what happens when you let voters decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Passing Time said: On another thread certain posters want a voted in leadership instead of the Royal Family… see what happens when you let voters decide. Frankly, the British monarch being our head of state is the least of our worries, we need to sort out our own political system. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Gladys said: I am not a political animal, but I really think a party political system is the way to go. Party politics is THE only way to go in the IOM. But the population has been brainwashed for so long on the subject it’s not going to happen. Just look at the UK. Whether you support Brexit or not a flash party (in Farage and the UKIP) called the vote in less than 3 years through combined effort. The IOM lacks guts. Edited September 17, 2022 by Newsdesk 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Newsdesk said: Party politics is THE only way to go in the IOM. But the population has been brainwashed for so long on the subject it’s not going to happen. Just look at the UK. Whether you support Brexit or not a flash party (in Farage and the UKIP) called the vote in less than 3 years through combined effort. The IOM lacks guts. That’s about it. I’m firmly on the European side of the Brexit debate but the UK successfully mobilized people on one single issue. It should be possible to do that here via a flash party that’s set up to achieve one main purpose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 9 hours ago, NoTailT said: Think it's due to be announced by the end of the week. It'll be the day after the funeral as government isn't actually supposed to do major announcements until then. 8 hours ago, GD4ELI said: He does work hard and tries his very best. Normally you have good CS to help, but on the rock... Saying you're working hard and actually working hard are two very different things. 11 hours ago, Asthehills said: What makes Christian the appropriate candidate? Because she set a Facebook page up in COVID? Is that it? Nothing, just listen to her in question time to get a measure. But then neither is Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Newsdesk said: Party politics is THE only way to go in the IOM. But the population has been brainwashed for so long on the subject it’s not going to happen. Just look at the UK. Whether you support Brexit or not a flash party (in Farage and the UKIP) called the vote in less than 3 years through combined effort. The IOM lacks guts. Party politics - really ? You’d still have the same lot. Anyway , Rob will be a superb choice as health minister and in particular in ensuring patients have an interesting and varied diet. You know , egg and soldiers and such like. Very nutritious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Saying you're working hard and actually working hard are two very different things. With our politicians, particularly the man from Louis Group, the bard comes to mind - 'full of sound and fury, signifying nothing'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Boo Gay'n said: With our politicians, particularly the man from Louis Group, the bard comes to mind - 'full of sound and fury, signifying nothing'. I disagree , put a big cigar in his gob and he’s a dead ringer for Churchill. Put an unruly blond wig on him and hey presto he’s Boris ( Johnston ). Political giant which ever way you look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Anyone said: Party politics - really ? You’d still have the same lot. Anyway , Rob will be a superb choice as health minister and in particular in ensuring patients have an interesting and varied diet. You know , egg and soldiers and such like. Very nutritious. And cheese on toast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, BriT said: And cheese on toast Sorry , how could I forget cheese on toast. Anyway , I don’t think he’ll be health minister , just a daft rumour. Chief Minister maybe but not Health Minister. Now that would be fun. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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