Dirty Buggane Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Rob has done his job, Allowing Hooper to be reinstated because of a crises that Rob has created which as far as anyone knows does not exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gizo said: Passing time is Neil Down That's quite an accusation... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, Gizo said: Passing time is Neil Down Well Obvs. But is Neil Down Vader? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, John Wright said: Actually it’s a strange concept to grasp. I do wonder if that played a part in his downfall. Not recognising the structure or appreciating the requirement for arms length If the role of the Minister is to decide policy (and not be concerned with trivial details) which person or body is responsible for monitoring and ultimately controlling the DHSC and Manx Care? These arms-length organisations confuse me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Two-lane said: If the role of the Minister is to decide policy (and not be concerned with trivial details) which person or body is responsible for monitoring and ultimately controlling the DHSC and Manx Care? These arms-length organisations confuse me. They have split the service delivery from the department and the policy making so in effect the Minister doesn’t have many powers over service provision. If the guy is as thick as most people say perhaps the penny didn’t drop that Mrs Gellings gammy leg appointment is controlled by Manx Care. Just because Mrs Gelling has written you a letter about her gammy leg does not mean that you can tell anyone at Manx Care to do anything about her next gammy leg appointment. If he’s such a desperate granny farmer then he’ll have worked out quick enough that he’s going to be getting thousands of people writing to him about nothing he has any control of and they’re all going to get very angry with him. Edited November 11, 2022 by BriT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Two-lane said: If the role of the Minister is to decide policy (and not be concerned with trivial details) which person or body is responsible for monitoring and ultimately controlling the DHSC and Manx Care? These arms-length organisations confuse me. Manx Care have a mandate from DHSC which defines what they must do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: Manx Care have a mandate from DHSC which defines what they must do. Empire-build and expand... 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: Manx Care have a mandate from DHSC which defines what they must do. This means that the DHSC is the controlling body - the DHSC must have the authority to hire and fire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Beecroft was the reason Beecroft got the boot she was absolutely dreadful, no one would work with her not just Rob. Had the longest pity party known in the Western world. Total disaster. Well we will see how Hooper goes second time around with the poisoned challis I wish him luck in a nice way. If Alfie keeps rotating the MHKs at the speed of light he is going to run out of options sooner or later. Has the new DOI Minister Thomas done any better than his predecessor…I haven’t seen any improvement, Victoria Street at lunchtime is not a great experience, the only plus is he has not used the word hopefully in every sentence. Interesting times indeed 🤨. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Declan said: Well Obvs. But is Neil Down Vader? You're wasting your time girls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 20 hours ago, Apple said: Given the comments about our role in this unfortunate situation, we firstly want to observe that we play no part in hiring and firing. Secondly, we’d like to assure people that our priority is to deliver the best we can for the public, and the staff at DHSC, and to continue to work positively and productively with the current Minister." Notice the cutesy, careful wording. Perhaps not in the actual act of firing which is obviously only in the gift of the Chief Minister. But it's like providing all the ammunition, loading the rifle, aiming it and giving it to the Chief to pull the trigger. I'd be very curious to see what a data subject access request would reveal about communications between political members and the CM. How long have the trio been political members for the failing and low morale DHSC? What have they done about it? What puts them on the moral high ground? Something really stinks here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman34 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 33 minutes ago, Augustus said: Notice the cutesy, careful wording. Perhaps not in the actual act of firing which is obviously only in the gift of the Chief Minister. But it's like providing all the ammunition, loading the rifle, aiming it and giving it to the Chief to pull the trigger. I'd be very curious to see what a data subject access request would reveal about communications between political members and the CM. How long have the trio been political members for the failing and low morale DHSC? What have they done about it? What puts them on the moral high ground? Something really stinks here. OK, Cueball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, manxman34 said: OK, Cueball Never met him in my life. I just don't like people getting fucked over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Augustus said: Never met him in my life. I just don't like people getting fucked over. But Rob totally fucked over Kate Beecroft in almost identical circumstances. That seemed to be ok though. He deliberately undermined his Minister, said that he had no confidence in her, and then she got sacked. Interestingly enough at that time he did another letter to the press ‘explaining’ it all in an attempt to excuse his behaviour. Just like he’s doing now. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) Rob , when all said and done doesn't seem very honourable or loyal in any shape or form. Not sure I would like him as a 'friend' tbh . He's certainly doesnt seem very capable despite what he thinks of himself. Edited November 11, 2022 by Numbnuts 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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