Apple Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Kopek said: That state of affairs is just the way it has been allowed to deteriorate to? A deliberate ploy? Any developer would have proceeded in the same manner. However, we don' texpect our Govt or LAs to be so mercenary? Is this what happened to Manxonia in Port St Mary then ? Why do they get to invest our rates in property development schemes. Who gives them that authority ? Surely this must be against some law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Unfortunately not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Kopek said: Unfortunately not. Well there should be. LA reform very much overdue. Most of them do not have the skills necessary to undertake these projects surely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Unfortunately, even in a reformed southern authority, if the PE element had stymied the Manxonia element, the PSM element would have cried 'foul'. Outside investigation would be the only remedy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kopek said: Unfortunately, even in a reformed southern authority, if the PE element had stymied the Manxonia element, the PSM element would have cried 'foul'. Outside investigation would be the only remedy? Or amalgamate them and reduce the numbers of the commissioners. Throw in Arbory as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Same result as above. Elements of old! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 15 hours ago, Apple said: Is this what happened to Manxonia in Port St Mary then ? Why do they get to invest our rates in property development schemes. Who gives them that authority ? Surely this must be against some law. IIRC correctly, it wasn't the PSM Board. They had discussed the purchase but not reached a decision. The then Town Clerk took it upon himself to progress the purchase without either authority from the Board or building survey in place, though I think there was a valuation. When all this was discovered, along with the costs of the necessary repairs, the TC resigned and departed with an undisclosed golden handshake (and a golden shower for the ratepayers). Some work was done but outstanding work is not economically viable and a buyer is now reportedly found for the property with an overall loss to the ratepayers of @ £47k. All this disgrace is already on a dedicated thread elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 3:14 PM, Neil Down said: Why not just demolish it with the proviso that any replacement has to be of a similar style? Given the photos that Frank has taken I think this is the only realistic option as the internal floor is clearly well below the level of the outside seating area making it both unworkable & inaccessible for wheelchairs etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: Given the photos that Frank has taken I think this is the only realistic option as the internal floor is clearly well below the level of the outside seating area making it both unworkable & inaccessible for wheelchairs etc pretty easy to raise a floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: pretty easy to raise a floor DOI have established lowering the world as the way forward.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 3:14 PM, Neil Down said: Why not just demolish it with the proviso that any replacement has to be of a similar style? Similarly rubbish or similarly better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 48 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: pretty easy to raise a floor You could fill it with 3ft of concrete but you'd need to lose the first floor for headroom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Happier diner said: Similarly rubbish or similarly better? take a guess Einstein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I think saving the Cosy Nook was less about saving the old building and more to do with stopping some characterless/hideous glass monstrosity built in its place. The building isn’t really fit for purpose as a Cafe/restaurant, there is barely enough space for the staff let alone the customers. It would be better off as holiday accommodation or similar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 More 'heritage' that isn't heritage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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