HeliX Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Helix, I think you are comparing times when Lia was different ages (and on different hormones) with absolute records when people are at maturity. That approach compresses a lot of the available information. Perhaps, but that pushes it even more in favour of Lia's competition in female sports being "fair", no? If she has not only entered her prime, but gotten considerably slower, isn't that evidence that the male puberty benefit is gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 53 minutes ago, Declan said: Why the quotations around the name? Aren't people allowed to chose their names? Testicles not quotations 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 The UK now has a transgender MP; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10667135/Tory-MP-comes-trans-Bridgend-MP-Jamie-Wallis-says-raped.html#comments Surprisingly a Tory one and making it public days after the Prime Minister made a joke about transgender people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: The UK now has a transgender MP; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10667135/Tory-MP-comes-trans-Bridgend-MP-Jamie-Wallis-says-raped.html#comments Surprisingly a Tory one and making it public days after the Prime Minister made a joke about transgender people... S/he has a very chequered history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, John Wright said: S/he has a very chequered history It’s He John. He said so. For now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/29/2022 at 1:47 PM, The Phantom said: 'Emily' who has a penis and was a promising junior cyclist will be competing this week against Laura Kenny at the Derby Velodrome this week. Could be interesting. Not allowed by the governing body this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 41 minutes ago, wrighty said: Not allowed by the governing body this time. Emily is still registered with the international federation as a male. Admin oversight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 I see the Tories have decided not to include protection for Trans Folk from abusive conversion therapies - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60947028 At first glance the reasons sound logical - Quote "And Nikki da Costa, a former director of legislative affairs at No 10, said elements of the legislation, particularly relating to gender identity for under 18s and talking therapy, would have had "profound consequences for children struggling with gender dysphoria". She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Friday: "Doctors, therapists and parents would be deterred from exploring with a child any feelings of what else may be going on for fear of being told they're trying to change a child's identity", adding that it was "deeply concerning". It is thought that the government sees it as too complicated to avoid any unintended consequences of the legislation - which may affect parents, teachers, and therapists who are helping children experiencing gender identity issues." But it can't be beyond the wit of legislators to draft a law that distinguishes between exploring a person's feelings by accredited professionals and an interventionist programme run by religious quacks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 I might have got the wrong end of the stick, but I'd have thought trans people probably need some conversion therapy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chie Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: I might have got the wrong end of the stick, but I'd have thought trans people probably need some conversion therapy. Got the joke. But no. Because, that kind of conversion therapy is taking who someone actually is and trying to force them to become something they are not. It’s an extremely damaging practice that has absolutely no scientific basis or backing outside of the loopy looney religious circles. It has never been shown to be effective in converting any type of LGBT person and has been shown to cause immense psychological and long lasting damage to the persons engaged with it. I will never forget a documentary I saw on it a number of years ago. Featuring what I assumed what their conversion leader who tried desperately to convince the camera that he himself was no longer a gay man yet lisped, minced, swayed and fabuloused his way across the screens and couldn’t have shouted “Hi guys I’m the stereotype gay” louder if he wanted to. People should just let people be people. Life’s too short to give any kind of a fuck who or what someone else is. If they aren’t hurting anyone who cares. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 I don't judge people on anything other than if they are a cnut or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 British Cycling now “back-pedalled” on allowing trans-women to compete in female events. Will those that argued that these decisions should be left to governing bodies now claim that they shouldn’t? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted April 8, 2022 Author Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 7:56 PM, Passing Time said: I don't judge people on anything other than if they are a cnut or not Shouldn't that be whether they have a cnut or not? Seems fair. Alabama using god's word to ban such therapies... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/08/alabama-transgender-youth-medical-care-bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 I do wonder what a Duckworth-Lewis calc would look-like for various swimmers - the data is probably there. If at 15 they were 200th ranked what range might they have at 21. Surely you mean the Duckworth-Louise calculation China ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 On 4/8/2022 at 6:18 PM, wrighty said: British Cycling now “back-pedalled” on allowing trans-women to compete in female events. Will those that argued that these decisions should be left to governing bodies now claim that they shouldn’t? If you mean me, then no. They still know more than I do, just like when they had the opposite position. It'd be nice if they published the data they're making the rulings off though, but that's more curiosity/nosyness than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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