cissolt Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 26 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: An opinion piece has been written. Might be popular with some https://gef.im/news/politics/opinion-the-radicalism-of-the-cannan-regime-has-highlighted-the-fundamental-flaw-in-the-political-system-of-the-isle-of-man-44301/ MHKs have already voted on the 'island plan'? Did the seek opinion from their constituents? As bonkers as I think it is, no politician has the balls to actually do what is required and reduce the waste in both staff and capital spend in government. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I'm trying to think what's been radical about it apart from a renewed onslaught on the taxpayers. If Alf wanted to be radical, he'd be reading past size and scope of Govt reports and realising that the days of plenty for public servants are over and acting accordingly (of course the public servants have already realised that their days of plenty are over and are acting by retrenching and increasing their numbers in spite of concerns of the elected). We need more radical than what Alf and Allinson are spouting. We need to realise that the island is inexorably reverting to its "natural status", certainly fiscally and economically; think the mid and late 70s. The problem is that back then, poor though it was, it didn't have 8000+ public servants and billions of £ of public debt to service. We are not going to attract another 10k families here whilst we continue to devastate public services and amenities in the name of servicing present Govt numbers. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 57 minutes ago, cissolt said: As bonkers as I think it is, no politician has the balls to actually do what is required and reduce the waste in both staff and capital spend in government. I don't think that's right - current administration seems to have significantly reduced capital spend. What big ones are coming through? Obviously projects underway more or less have to be completed (Liverpool). There is the wind turbine scheme but this actually has a short payback period and makes strong financial sense. Staff from the outside it doesn't appear they have done much on, but I suspect part of it is feeling they can't cut massively whilst trying to increase pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 11 hours ago, cissolt said: MHKs have already voted on the 'island plan'? Did the seek opinion from their constituents? It wasn't in the Island Plan to raise the population. It was the economic strategy. Jersey are having a vote of no confidence in their chief minister on 16th Jan. Guernsey have already removed theirs. Maybe the Keys should try it since we always follow where the Channel Islands lead. They would only need a simple majority of 13 Members 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 20 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Maybe the Keys should try it since we always follow where the Channel Islands lead. They would only need a simple majority of 13 Members Something as seismic as that will never happen, life "in the tent" is too united and cosy. #clubtynwald, the best club in the world. The civil service keep it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 ... but all mhks, inc. Alf, would still be in the 'tent', just a new CM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: It wasn't in the Island Plan to raise the population. It was the economic strategy. Jersey are having a vote of no confidence in their chief minister on 16th Jan. Guernsey have already removed theirs. Maybe the Keys should try it since we always follow where the Channel Islands lead. They would only need a simple majority of 13 Members Who would replace him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Isn't the increase in population etc etc what KPMG wants rather than Alf Cannan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 But to what purpose if Alf was voted out of office who would take over ? There would be no fresh blood . To use a very old Manx expression…they are all pissing in the same pot with the one ambition and that is to be re-elected as they are practically all unemployable. That is why they lack decisiveness and are reluctant to take any steps that would make them unpopular with their constituents. Everything is remaining static nothing is moving. Pathetic is being kind when describing the present regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 It wouldn't be allowed. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 ...''There would be no fresh blood''... ...but would we trust fresh blood, as in newly elected for the first time??? General opinion is that some parliamentary experience is required even for dept heads! Any new MHK would have to have come from an experienced position in another jurisdiction to be considered surely? Maybe the ex CMs of the CI !!! 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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