paswt Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Non-Believer said: It's not this simple though? Unfortunately, the governance of the IoM has got to the stage where unelected civil servants no longer answer to the elected MHKs. Rather, the job of the MHKs has become to deflect, deny, defend and apologise in respect of those CS and their Depts and entourages at every turn and event. Even when it is glaringly obvious to the public eye that things are going massively awry and millions of pounds are being wasted or misspent. It afflicts every Dept and too many LAs. Quite how this situation has arisen is anybody's guess but probably through elected weakness and lack of knowledge over the years. The servants have become the untouchable masters with the elected oversight their obedient poodles. Perhaps the newly elected MHK's are initially "looked after" by a senior CS and sent on expenses paid trips to London to see how "democracy works" then on "Media training courses"(Rob still unable to advise the cost of that one) and subsequently on other "educational" and "fact finding" visits in interesting and exotic locations . As a result the CS and the MHK are "mates" and there could be a tacit agreement not to "dob each other in" . It's a win win situation for the CS individual it's cost him/her personally nothing ( his/her job is secured they remain anonymous ) and all the newly appointed MHK has lost is their credibility and when the public sees them for what they are they'll be out and another MHK will be given the same "opportunities". That's my hypothesis but I could be wrong Edited September 3, 2020 by paswt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 16 hours ago, finlo said: Shall we run a sweepstake as to will be the first to dig it back up? They have already started over Queens prom way . Big holes and scaffolding surrounding workings . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Two-lane said: I voted for Allinson on the basis that as a GP not only would he have a reasonable IQ, but that he would have a great deal of common sense and some social responsibility. Harold Shipman was a GP 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, kevster said: Harold Shipman was a GP Thread winner right there... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, paswt said: Perhaps the newly elected MHK's are initially "looked after" by a senior CS and sent on expenses paid trips to London to see how "democracy works" then on "Media training courses"(Rob still unable to advise the cost of that one) and subsequently on other "educational" and "fact finding" visits in interesting and exotic locations . As a result the CS and the MHK are "mates" and there could be a tacit agreement not to "dob each other in" . It's a win win situation for the CS individual it's cost him/her personally nothing ( his/her job is secured they remain anonymous ) and all the newly appointed MHK has lost is their credibility and when the public sees them for what they are they'll be out and another MHK will be given the same "opportunities". That's my hypothesis but I could be wrong "Assimilation into the system"...with all its benefits. "Club Tynwald - the best club in the world". From one of its past senior members. Club Tynwald has forgotten what it exists for, through self-benefit and invention of pomp and circumstance for itself. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Neil Down said: Thread winner right there... Lots of new paving being laid in Ramsey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Mr Callister now claiming that the Sea Terminal is looking "tired" (MR News online). That rubbing noise you can hear in the background is Ann Reynolds' hands... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Mr Callister now claiming that the Sea Terminal is looking "tired" (MR News online). That rubbing noise you can hear in the background is Ann Reynolds' hands... Pretty much like the yanks who love to start wars yet never get round to finishing them, our like minded clowns love to start jobs and never finish those... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Mr Callister now claiming that the Sea Terminal is looking "tired" (MR News online). That rubbing noise you can hear in the background is Ann Reynolds' hands... And the clapping you can also hear in background are the DOI estates planning people at the prospect of cooking up another grandiose 4 million quid scheme that won't run to budget or on time. What's not to like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: And the clapping you can also hear in background are the DOI estates planning people at the prospect of cooking up another grandiose 4 million quid scheme that won't run to budget or on time. What's not to like? And the manical laughing is Longtail at the prospect of running the horse trams right the way to the boats Edited September 4, 2020 by Neil Down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: That rubbing noise you can hear in the background is Ann Reynolds' hands... You mean the Ann Reynolds who went into a Tynwald meeting and said she had no idea what the cause of the queues was, but she thought it a good idea to spend £330,000 of someone else's money solving the unknown problem. Including buying and maintaining 4 or 5 bar code scanners when there is at most two baggage scanners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Neil Down said: And the manical laughing is Longtail at the prospect of running the horse trams right the way to the boats That's where they should be going. Ever heard of integrated transport? My first trip on a horse tram was when I came with my parents, and got on one close to the ship's gangway. You couldn't go that close now - you've got to get people through security, but get them to terminate close to the Sea Terminal doors, and you're onto a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, monasqueen said: That's where they should be going. Ever heard of integrated transport? My first trip on a horse tram was when I came with my parents, and got on one close to the ship's gangway. You couldn't go that close now - you've got to get people through security, but get them to terminate close to the Sea Terminal doors, and you're onto a winner. Where horse trams are concerned, you are never onto a winner. You are not even close to a draw... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southfork Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Just look at these irrelevant fancy dress bellends dressing up as the town is literally being destroyed around them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Southfork said: Just look at these irrelevant fancy dress bellends dressing up as the town is literally being destroyed around them I’m sure Douglas ratepayers will be delighted to see their money has been well spent on those outfits and no doubt a few drinks & canapés 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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