Ham_N_Eggs Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Non-Believer said: I sincerely hope that at the end of all this there will be an independent, forensic Inquiry into what has gone on, the Whens, the Whys and the Whos. That would leave no stone unturned and not just produce an outcome of "Lessons will be Learned". The lessons relevant should have been learned well before this shambles commenced. Then a pig cruised past at 40,000 feet. There needs to be one now so we don't waste anymore money. The Environment and Infrastructure Committee is looking into it but when they will do a final report and what it will say god only knows. Failing a proper investigation they need to stop laying the rails and just fix the mess they've made already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 10 hours ago, Neil Down said: It’s almost like they haven’t a feckin clue almost ?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 16 hours ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: There needs to be one now so we don't waste anymore money. The Environment and Infrastructure Committee is looking into it but when they will do a final report and what it will say god only knows. Failing a proper investigation they need to stop laying the rails and just fix the mess they've made already. Have you seen anyone actually working on the rails since Christmas?. The whole section of track up to the only bit of the promenade they have not yet started improving (the Esplanade) is supposed to be completed by January 2020( presumably the end of January) So in the first of four weeks they appear to have done absolutely F*** all. Still not seen a anyone working on the supposedly complete section of road and pavement at the Summerhill end either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) You have to assume there are 'discussions' currently going on about the rails. It makes no sense to continue doing them when they can't even agree about what is causing the concrete to crack. Edited January 10, 2020 by Dave Hedgehog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said: You have to assume there are 'discussions' currently going on about the rails. It makes no sense to continue doing them when they can't even agree about what is causing the concrete to crack. Damage limitation I'm thinking .at a last resort they have to dig it all up and they definitely don't want to be seen to do that . But sadly I think they have no option as it's a complete F***up . No signs of any change either which is even more worrying . Edited January 10, 2020 by Numbnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I don't profess to know or even understand how major road refurbishments are carried out and costed but wouldn't it be better to have an 'all hands on deck' approach? This way we could have had the whole thing done in months rather than years, mitigated the losses to businesses on the promenade and had something which benefits the island in a timely manner. Instead we are just adding to the scale of the desolation with the likes of the Villiers, Summerland, Castle Mona, Imperial etc. Surely the costs wouldn't be any more than spreading it out as an employment scheme over four years!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, Max Power said: I don't profess to know or even understand how major road refurbishments are carried out and costed but wouldn't it be better to have an 'all hands on deck' approach? This way we could have had the whole thing done in months rather than years, mitigated the losses to businesses on the promenade and had something which benefits the island in a timely manner. Instead we are just adding to the scale of the desolation with the likes of the Villiers, Summerland, Castle Mona, Imperial etc. Surely the costs wouldn't be any more than spreading it out as an employment scheme over four years!! This is the problem. There aren’t enough ‘hands’. You’d have to import masses of itinerant labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Derek Flint said: This is the problem. There aren’t enough ‘hands’. You’d have to import masses of itinerant labour. Well, that makes sense to me Derek, at least the pubs would benefit too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Max Power said: I don't profess to know or even understand how major road refurbishments are carried out and costed but wouldn't it be better to have an 'all hands on deck' approach? This way we could have had the whole thing done in months rather than years, mitigated the losses to businesses on the promenade and had something which benefits the island in a timely manner. Instead we are just adding to the scale of the desolation with the likes of the Villiers, Summerland, Castle Mona, Imperial etc. Surely the costs wouldn't be any more than spreading it out as an employment scheme over four years!! What! That would ruin Watling street works multi million pound retirement fund! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: This is the problem. There aren’t enough ‘hands’. You’d have to import masses of itinerant labour. Which begs the question; in the clear absence of, why the hell did they start the job in the first instance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Which begs the question; in the clear absence of, why the hell did they start the job in the first instance? DOI management and Civil Service ego's . ! Harmer is on record at the start of th contract that they would be 50/60 workers at any one time . They haven't even got close mainly because they haven't had detailed plans for much of the works apart from conception plans. Also because of cockups in Rail and concrete laying has caused much of the delay and then a inordinate time to come up with solutions for those issues . For gods sake they are 24 weeks behind in a 48 week time span and I'm sure far more now as nothing really has been carried out since Xmas break . It's not getting any better any time soon . Edited January 12, 2020 by Numbnuts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Numbnuts said: DOI management and CS Ego's ! Harmer is on record at the start of th contract that they would be 50/60 workers at any one time . They haven't even got close mainly because they haven't had detailed plans fir much of the works apart from conception plans. Also because of cockups in Rail and concrete laying has caused much of the delay and then a inordinate time yo come up with solutions for those issues . For gods sake they are 24 weeks behind in a 48 week time span and I'm sure far more now as noting really has been carried out since Xmas break . It's not getting any better any time soon . Yet according to the Dept of Incompetence and their even more incompetent boss Baker, all is well with the promenade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Neil Down said: Yet according to the Dept of Incompetence and their even more incompetent boss Baker, all is well with the promenade Of course it is ..we can all see it's all hunky dory and clearly a well run contract on time and well structured and manned ! Baker is clearly smoking the same as the rest of them and quickly encompassing the DOI mindset . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Neil Down said: Yet according to the Dept of Incompetence and their even more incompetent boss Baker, all is well with the promenade This being the same Tim Baker who's been in DOI infrastructure post for all of five minutes. Like a chick in the nest, unquestioning beak wide open, being fed bullshit by his Departmental mandarins. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 It's as if they have gone past the point of no return and going to carry on regardless. Feckin eejits, the lot of them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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